Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Or how about they become unemployed and the economy tanks even harder. Is that a better scenario?

Consider the wider implications before spouting your right wing, shirkers bile.

How about they sit at home observing lockdown rules like the rest of us?

I'm not spouting anything that most people going to work aren't thinking
 
If it's elitist to wonder why on earth you'd queue for hours in a hot metal box to eat crap food that tastes of nothing then I'm a dreadful snob. Especially when there's probably a hundred local businesses within a 15 minute drive that would really appreciate your trade.
To judge others, yeah. I think it is. I’m assuming they really like McDonald’s. So what. I certainly wouldn’t tweet about it.

I wouldn’t spend thousands on a bottle of wine as I can’t really understand the difference between that and a £5 bottle. deffo no by the second glass anyway. Do I judge people who do? Yeah I do. They are obviously idiots (only joking - no I don’t. Each to their own).
 
Or how about they become unemployed and the economy tanks even harder. Is that a better scenario?

Consider the wider implications before spouting your right wing, shirkers bile.
In fairness I'm pretty sure he isn't a right winger. It's just a small photoshot of the divisions this virus is driving between different sections of the community. Fuelled by the media and social media I may add.

I think we're all guilty to some extent of being too quick to judge others without knowing the facts. The truth is we're all affected in different ways and to different degrees by this virus. But every single one of us will be hurting in some way.
 
How about they sit at home observing lockdown rules like the rest of us?

I'm not spouting anything that most people going to work aren't thinking

People can now go outside as much as they want. And I am sorry to break it to you but you have no idea what "most people" going to work are thinking. No one does, in the absence of robust surveys covering this topic.

This is all unimportant in the grand scheme of things. The important thing to note is that the furlough scheme is crucial and we are all benefiting from it, even those still in employment.
 
In fairness I'm pretty sure he isn't a right winger. It's just a small photoshot of the divisions this virus is driving between different sections of the community. Fuelled by the media and social media I may add.

I think we're all guilty to some extent of being too quick to judge others without knowing the facts. The truth is we're all affected in different ways and to different degrees by this virus. But every single one of us will be hurting in some way.

I didn't say he is right wing in general (and main stream right wing stances are of course legitimate).

I said the notion that people are lounging around enjoying "free money" is right wing bile, in line with the shirkers narrative created by the Tories over many years. And I agree, it is there to divide us.
 
Putting emotion and basic human compassion to one side for a moment ...

Some people will have been end of life and not had long left, others may well have died in the next year or two, but plenty would normally have been good for a few years yet.

That likely means that, as we come to the end of the first peak, there's a fair chance that deaths per week will drop below the long term average and the overall figure will balance out a bit. If we keep a lid on the epidemic, then we'll likely end up with below average deaths next winter as well.

If we were being totally honest with ourselves, we'd tacitly accept some deaths from Coronavirus as being acceptable. As a society, we do this all the time, but the combination of the scale of the situation in the UK ( and Ireland to a lesser extent ) and , probably even more so, the timescale over which those deaths have occurred, goes way beyond that.

Hopefully, one of the outcomes of this will be a better understanding of the dangers of viruses to the vulnerable, and, the next time there's a bad dose of flu going round, people will realise the dangers of passing it on, and take more precautions.

As an example, there were roughly 50k excess deaths over the winter of 2017/18. A bit more hand washing, self isolating if you have symptoms ( rather than being a martyr and going into the office ) and limiting time kids spend with frail grandparents could probably have brought that number down quite a lot.

We'll probably forget all about it though and go back to normal.
And getting the seasonal flu vaccine in autumn, even if it costs a few quid out of pocket, would help considerably too.
 
And getting the seasonal flu vaccine in autumn, even if it costs a few quid out of pocket, would help considerably too.

I did that for the first time last Winter, after the previous Winter's ski trip was nearly wrecked by flu (the whole chalet went down with it).

I'm definitely going to keep doing it each year. I've had flu twice now in my life time and it is horrendous.
 
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