Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Catfish Blues]

Have to say, the "maybe it's nothing and those people were going to die anyway" crew seem to grow even more obtuse with each each depressing statistic

Putting emotion and basic human compassion to one side for a moment ...

Some people will have been end of life and not had long left, others may well have died in the next year or two, but plenty would normally have been good for a few years yet.

That likely means that, as we come to the end of the first peak, there's a fair chance that deaths per week will drop below the long term average and the overall figure will balance out a bit. If we keep a lid on the epidemic, then we'll likely end up with below average deaths next winter as well.

If we were being totally honest with ourselves, we'd tacitly accept some deaths from Coronavirus as being acceptable. As a society, we do this all the time, but the combination of the scale of the situation in the UK ( and Ireland to a lesser extent ) and , probably even more so, the timescale over which those deaths have occurred, goes way beyond that.

Hopefully, one of the outcomes of this will be a better understanding of the dangers of viruses to the vulnerable, and, the next time there's a bad dose of flu going round, people will realise the dangers of passing it on, and take more precautions.

As an example, there were roughly 50k excess deaths over the winter of 2017/18. A bit more hand washing, self isolating if you have symptoms ( rather than being a martyr and going into the office ) and limiting time kids spend with frail grandparents could probably have brought that number down quite a lot.

We'll probably forget all about it though and go back to normal.

 

[USABlue]

Why on earth would you spend more than 5 minutes in a mcdonalds line? Disbelief here

 

[Nymzee]

Go between 6 and 8pm and generally there'll be no queue.

They might of sold out of two or three things you were after, but if those things are fresh veg you can pick them up locally some other day.

Oh no I mean like how best to avoid things. Like I'll stick bags in my poclets, gloves to pick up the basket, glove to put items in my basket, gloves to put them on conveyor belt, gloves off to get the bags out of pocket, gloves on to put items in bags, then I need to knuckle the bloody touch screen, then gloves off to walk bags to car etc.

Just such a faff thinking of all the things you might touch and that's before trying to avoid everyone ignoring social distancing and the directional arrows.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Look at that dirty arl fella just aching for a tug

At his age you don't need to tug it anymore too explode! lol

 

[Buckers]

It's been months now and still haven't figured out the optimum way to do my ASDA shop.

It’s probably a gender issue. That’s what I’m putting my difficulties down to!

 

[Catfish Blues]

Why on earth would you spend more than 5 minutes in a mcdonalds line? Disbelief here

That's nothing.

At one of the resorts on the south coast here the other day, most of the public toilets were closed, so there was just one disabled toilet available, and there was a 40 minute queue.

Moral of the story. If you're going anywhere in the UK take an elastic band and a cork with you.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

That's nothing.

At one of the resorts on the south coast here the other day, most of the public toilets were closed, so there was just one disabled toilet available, and there was a 40 minute queue.

Moral of the story. If you're going anywhere in the UK take an elastic band and a cork with you.

I always carry a piss bottle in the car just in case I get caught short. Had a bit of a problem though finding a bottle with a wide enough opening so I could fit my todger in.

 

[Catfish Blues]

Oh no I mean like how best to avoid things. Like I'll stick bags in my poclets, gloves to pick up the basket, glove to put items in my basket, gloves to put them on conveyor belt, gloves off to get the bags out of pocket, gloves on to put items in bags, then I need to knuckle the bloody touch screen, then gloves off to walk bags to car etc.

Just such a faff thinking of all the things you might touch and that's before trying to avoid everyone ignoring social distancing and the directional arrows.

Unless you're particularly vulnerable, or living with someone who is, you might be overreacting a bit mate ?

• If you've got some sanitiser, take it with you
• Clean the basket handle with what the supermarket provides
• Then sanitise your hands
• Do your shopping
• Pay
• Sanitise your hands
• Go to the car and drive home
• Take shopping inside
• Wash your hands
• Wash your face
• Unpack shopping

I don't do all the above by the way, but if you're particularly concerned, then it seems like a plan.

 

[Nymzee]

Unless you're particularly vulnerable, or living with someone who is, you might be overreacting a bit mate ?

• If you've got some sanitiser, take it with you
• Clean the basket handle with what the supermarket provides
• Then sanitise your hands
• Do your shopping
• Pay
• Sanitise your hands
• Go to the car and drive home
• Take shopping inside
• Wash your hands
• Wash your face
• Unpack shopping

I don't do all the above by the way, but if you're particularly concerned, then it seems like a plan.

I live alone but I also am in the age bracket where I could likely have/get this and not even notice so trying to minimise the chances of me passing something on more than me actually getting it.

 

[peteblue]

Sweden always thought to be easily the worst performing country in Europe when all factors are included, now has had it confirmed - overtaking the UK, Italy and Belgium to have the highest number of deaths per capita in the world.

But it may not be over yet. Nothing is ‘confirmed’ until it is finished and the data reviewed. Sweden has gone for ‘herd immunity’ and has saved its economy in the process. If a second wave hits Europe, as it may well do, then more deaths follow, a further shutdown wreaks the economies even further, and deaths decline again slowly. A second wave in Sweden may have absolutely no effect as they may have achieved immunity. But no one knows, and until all the phases have been gone through and data collected no one knows what was really the best way to deal with Coronavirus......

 

[COYBL25]

Unless you're particularly vulnerable, or living with someone who is, you might be overreacting a bit mate ?

• If you've got some sanitiser, take it with you
• Clean the basket handle with what the supermarket provides
• Then sanitise your hands
• Do your shopping
• Pay
• Sanitise your hands
• Go to the car and drive home
• Take shopping inside
• Wash your hands
• Wash your face
• Unpack shopping

I don't do all the above by the way, but if you're particularly concerned, then it seems like a plan.

The Tesco by us has a member of staff inside that disinfects the baskets inside and one outside who does the trollies.

It must be a real pain in the arse job to do and they deserve real credit for implementing it.

 

[Catfish Blues]

I live alone but I also am in the age bracket where I could likely have/get this and not even notice so trying to minimise the chances of me passing something on more than me actually getting it.

That's fair enough mate, but really, when shopping, to minimise the risk to others is probably as simple as

1. Sanitise your hands before you go in and
2. Wear a mask

If everything else you do makes you feel comfortable about your chances of passing the virus on, then that's great, but it likely makes next to no difference.

 

[PhilM]

Unless you're particularly vulnerable, or living with someone who is, you might be overreacting a bit mate ?

• If you've got some sanitiser, take it with you
• Clean the basket handle with what the supermarket provides
• Then sanitise your hands
• Do your shopping
• Pay
• Sanitise your hands
• Go to the car and drive home
• Take shopping inside
• Wash your hands
• Wash your face
• Unpack shopping

I don't do all the above by the way, but if you're particularly concerned, then it seems like a plan.

I have got a box of medical wipes in the car normally used for disinfecting CPR dummies (very high % of alcohol) and use them for cleaning the trolley etc.

The stuff damages and dries your hands out like mad if you touch it for more than a few seconds, so I am hopeful that it does the job.

Like you said, if you wash your hands before you go in, when you come out and when you get home (with your face) the chances on infection will be much slimmer.

We've got a disinfectant spray for the car too which I spray over the wheel and gear stick etc: this is what we recommend in work with constant swapping over.

 

[Catfish Blues]

The Tesco by us has a member of staff inside that disinfects the baskets inside and one outside who does the trollies.

It must be a real pain in the arse job to do and they deserve real credit for implementing it.

They started off doing that at our local store, but it's self service handle cleaning now. Every Little Helps only goes so far !

 

[Old Blue 2]

Look at that dirty arl fella just aching for a tug

Still can't work out whether that's a 'set-up', or for real...