Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Bruce Wayne]

He`s doing repeat wheelies outside @Bruce Wayne house

I did 120km this morning, and have spent the rest of the day hating myself

 

[Tipp blue]

How exactly is Herd Immunity supposed to work?

Herd Immunity sounds promising for a once-in-a-lifetime disease. But if immunity only lasts 12 to 24 months, that’s a several times per decade disease, which sounds like a less attractive deal. Let’s say the Infection Fatality Rate is just 0.5% per run to Herd Immunity, which would be achieved...

www.unz.com

I don't think there will ever be a vaccine, in my non medical opinion the best we'll get is a treatment that stops you dying.

 

[Tipp blue]

I have little to no faith in a vaccine been found before 2021 - my only hope is I've already had it and have immunity even for just a year or two or that some anti viral medicine is found to help treat it.

My brother is getting married in August next year in Vancouver, hopefully they'll have something by then, I would rather like to go.

 

[roydo]

They were testing peoples temperatures before they allowed visitors months ago, which is all the help they got. Right at the start of this they had a care home diary on the BBC and they forecast what a disaster this would become because of the government guidance and again their absolute failure on an epic scale.. This is a difficult one for you to defend I'm afraid.

Not "defending" anything.

I was delivering to them in early Feb, and just strolled in as per usual. Point I was making was at the time, the whole country were on high alert to protect the NHS; unless you can dig out an early daily update that said Stay at home and protect the NHS, (and care homes).

 

[Catfish Blues]

The number of people in hospitals with coronavirus is coming down steadily. Down 1800 from this day a week ago, about 15% down or so.

Probably as good an indicator as any.

170 deaths today, although it's a weekend figure. But it is a good bit lower than last weekend too.

Week on week figures for admissions, people still in hospitals and deaths are all coming down by close to 15%, so, a crude estimation for R across the country is about .85.

Or, to be more accurate, R was fairly consistently round about 0.85 between 10 and 25 days ago when most of those people got infected. If, despite the recent restrictions, and more people going back to work, we continue to see reductions of about 15% per week over the next two or three weeks, then there's grounds for optimism, but we're dealing with fine margins here.

 

[Billy Dean]

Billy. I'm sure you're aware I responded to a pedantic post with one of my own.

Having said that the point stands. We should be doing our best to protect all our workers, teachers are not a special case

Ah sorry I didn't read the whole conversation

 

[davmaher]

At the time this thing was taking hold, and then in the early days of the ICU admissions, it was all about the NHS. Which having seen the issues in Italy and Spain, was understandable.

By that time, it was too late I am afraid. Care homes have so many folk coming and going, one visitor with the virus was all it needed.

I've not seen or read anything about COVID-19 cases in care homes being due to visitors. I've seen and read loads saying it was primarily caused by the government's decision to send people from hospitals to care homes without testing them.

 

[cooperman]

I have little to no faith in a vaccine been found before 2021 - my only hope is I've already had it and have immunity even for just a year or two or that some anti viral medicine is found to help treat it.

I read the Oxford vaccine has had some positive results in testing. Given to primates for testing, all given the real vaccine developed antibodies and avoided contracting pneumonia. There's still some hurdles but very promising

 

[roydo]

I've not seen or read anything about COVID-19 cases in care homes being due to visitors. I've seen and read loads saying it was primarily caused by the government's decision to send people from hospitals to care homes without testing them.

I would suggest that far more random visitors to care homes exceed the number of returning patients.

Please read back what I said. I dint defend anyone, I just made the observation that in the early days of this, it was ALL about protecting the NHS.

 

[Catfish Blues]

I've not seen or read anything about COVID-19 cases in care homes being due to visitors. I've seen and read loads saying it was primarily caused by the government's decision to send people from hospitals to care homes without testing them.

COVID cases in care homes will have been primarily caused by three things :-

• Infected hospital patients introducing the virus
• Staff introducing the virus and
• Visitors introducing the virus

Visitors are probably the smallest contributor there ( purely based on time spent in the care home ), but it's really anyone's guess as to which was the worst cause between dischargees and staff. That's not having a pop at staff, but it's a fact of life that some will have, unintentionally taken the virus into homes and spread it, whereas the effect of discharging patients to homes could have been mitigated much better.

 

[Walken]

I have little to no faith in a vaccine been found before 2021 - my only hope is I've already had it and have immunity even for just a year or two or that some anti viral medicine is found to help treat it.

In your extensive medical expertise

 

[ForeverBlue92]

In your extensive medical expertise

Just cant see it mate - time they do all the trials and then dish it out to the world 6 billion + population - its been around months and most of us havent even been given a test yet!

Highly doubt the non key worker peasants will see it anytime soon.

 

[roydo]

Visitors introducing the virus

What everyone will deduce for that id visitors being family visiting their kin.

Reality is that tons of folk visit care homes for loads of reasons. Delivery folk, posties, gardeners, sparks, decorators. They are very busy places!

 

[Neiler]

64 new cases in Ireland today, delighted with that.

 

[Toast]

this thread is rather quiet for the last two days

Unlike my neighbours who are currently having a BBQ outside the front of their house with at least 3 other families there.

Utter gobshites and i hope they all get the runs.