Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[navidson]

Hospital deaths down again today, only 90 in England all from the past 5 days, 41 from Scotland yesterday, 4 from NI yesterday and 12 from Wales

Care home deaths not announced but overall total could be between 3-400

Shame its the weekend so the numbers are basically made up

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

The economic fallout is likely to make even more homeless, as a society we didn’t do enough to address the issue anyway, perhaps results like this will focus more resources.

 

[Neiler]

Hamster tests show masks reduce coronavirus spread: scientists

HONG KONG: Tests on hamsters reveal the widespread use of facemasks reduces transmission of the deadly coronavirus, a team of leading experts in Hong Kong said Sunday.

www.bangkokpost.com

Surgical masks were placed between the two cages with air flow travelling from the infected animals to the healthy ones.
The researchers found non-contact transmission of the virus could be reduced by more than 60% when the masks were used. Two thirds of the healthy hamsters were infected within a week if no masks were applied.

The infection rate plunged to just over 15% when surgical masks were put on the cage of the infected animals and by about 35% when placed on the cage with the healthy hamsters. Those that did become infected were also found to have less of the virus within their bodies than those infected without a mask.

"It's very clear that the effect of masking the infected, especially when they are asymptomatic -- or symptomatic -- it's much more important than anything else," Yuen told reporters Sunday. "It also explained why universal masking is important because we now have known that a large number of those infected have no symptom."

They must have been some big eared hamsters!

 

[LocalNative]

Hospital deaths down again today, only 90 in England all from the past 5 days, 41 from Scotland yesterday, 4 from NI yesterday and 12 from Wales

Care home deaths not announced but overall total could be between 3-400

The number of deaths in care home is absolutely tragic.

A major, major inquiry needs to be held after this to get some reasons for these horrid failings.

 

[Neiler]

I suspect there could be many variables possibly positive or negative, health infrastructure, testing infrastructure, access to both, poverty, reporting systems, perhaps as suggested weather humidity also a factor. West Africa in particular you would think have some skills around infection control - even if the well documented problems still exist.

Its an interesting one especially when you consider the ethnic element we may be seeing in the West and the genetic vs socio economic debate.

 

[Dixieslaces]

I think, like Trump or not, that anti-malaria drugs with this Hydrochloroquine in it may well be paying a part?

 

[Neiler]

Jeepers 1.2 million a day in Brazil, dont see that happening anytime soon, more is the pity.

 

[roydo]

The number of deaths in care home is absolutely tragic.

A major, major inquiry needs to be held after this to get some reasons for these horrid failings.

At the time this thing was taking hold, and then in the early days of the ICU admissions, it was all about the NHS. Which having seen the issues in Italy and Spain, was understandable.

By that time, it was too late I am afraid. Care homes have so many folk coming and going, one visitor with the virus was all it needed.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

See but the official website doesn't say that, it talks about 1000 UK cases alone.

By singling it to one particular city and saying there is a rise there is neither here nor there. It can happen anytime anywhere given the disease is triggered rather than developed.

There may be a rise this year in the UK , we wouldn't know that until next year. Given we get around 1000 cases anyway , we are far shy of that target coming up to 6 months in if there has only been 100.

If people aren't calling it that in the right fields then it's everyone else mis diagnosing it essentially. So the story has no merit despite it being printed / published everywhere. Noone would have heard of Kawasaki disease until around 3 weeks ago. All of a sudden its the new buzzword to describe covid-19 in relation to kids.

As I say it's either Kawasaki or it isn't. If it isn't then the media are pretty much lying to the people about what's going on. You can't call mis labeled diseases occuring as any other capacity than lying. It's like saying someone has one thing when it's another. Sars is similar to covid-19, they aren't the same.

It's not being called Kawasaki disease, it's being called PIMS or something like that. The symptoms are similar to Kawasaki but it's not, its unique and novel.

 

[Barnfred 55]

But by that rationale why don't we all just give up and go back to work

Billy. I'm sure you're aware I responded to a pedantic post with one of my own.

Having said that the point stands. We should be doing our best to protect all our workers, teachers are not a special case

 

[PhilM]

At the time this thing was taking hold, and then in the early days of the ICU admissions, it was all about the NHS. Which having seen the issues in Italy and Spain, was understandable.

By that time, it was too late I am afraid. Care homes have so many folk coming and going, one visitor with the virus was all it needed.

Sadly, it's not even that simple.

A friend, who is a community nurse and deals with the moving of patients to care homes, said that patients were being released to care homes without testing.

She told me of a case where a woman was in hospital with a hip issue and was sent back to her care home; she died with COVID-19 symptoms eight days later.

That woman was the first person in the care home to have died and there have been numerous since. Now, she may not have took it in there - she may have.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

In Belgium tomorrow you can exercise in groups of up to 20.

But you still can't do anything involving music. Doing my head in now.

 

[roydo]

Sadly, it's not even that simple.

A friend, who is a community nurse and deals with the moving of patients to care homes, said that patients were being released to care homes without testing.

She told me of a case where a woman was in hospital with a hip issue and was sent back to her care home; she died with COVID-19 symptoms eight days later.

That woman was the first person in the care home to have died and there have been numerous since. Now, she may not have took it in there - she may have.

Yeah, I remember that being raised. But my wider point that the country's whole focus was on the NHS, at the time, remains. In fact, your tragic example kinda backs it up.

When I was working, I would deliver sommet to a care home/retirement complex most days. Since day one of this, online deliveries have been at 150% of normal pre Christmas activity. Doesnt take a huge leap of faith to see how the virus could be dumped in one, pretty early in the crisis.

 

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