Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Not apologies for any government. Merely pointing out that there's no way whatsoever for you to quantify the impact masks has had versus social distancing versus hand hygiene versus closing borders versus numerous other measures. Being an academic man I wouldn't have thought the rudiments of a randomised control trial would need explaining.

Well you were the one bringing other issues in; I was correcting someone who made the error of saying there were vague guidelines on wearing face coverings across Europe.
 
Well you were the one bringing other issues in; I was correcting someone who made the error of saying there were vague guidelines on wearing face coverings across Europe.

As I've mentioned previously, the guidelines in Czech are pretty vague. As mentioned, the health minister today said that people have to wear them in restaurants, except when they're either eating or drinking. Similarly if you're using a leisure facility, such as a swimming pool, you wear them in the changing rooms/reception areas, but not in the pool itself. They've undoubtedly had very few infections, but it's far from clear quite how much of an impact the masks played in that outcome.
 
I'm curious as to what other options there are, let alone ones which are better

In the short to medium term, borrowing what is required and accepting a higher debt to GDP ratio.

This will increase economic growth, with the increase in debt servicing being the trade off. This trade off is made even more worthwhile considering how cheap borrowing currently is.

As the economy begins to grow again, the extraordinary public spending on furloughing and supporting industries will become less necessary.

We can hold other increases in public spending to inflation and the debt to GDP ratio will begin to decline.
 

From my previous life, and with reference to teacher unions having "concerns" about on line class rooms and cyber security..

You can easily hack into a meeting if you know the meeting id, but as mentioned before, the easy way round that is to use the setting whereby every participant in the call has to be approved by the organiser (teacher in this instance). So everyone that accesses the id goes into a holding room, before being let in by the organiser. Zoombombing eradicated.
 
"R" back above one SAGE have said, does does not even include data since lock down was eased.

That’s awful but not surprising.

Probably means all our bickering about whether schools should reopen or not is by the by... or should be if the government stick to their work about locking down again.

This is a bleedin shambles.
 
You can easily hack into a meeting if you know the meeting id, but as mentioned before, the easy way round that is to use the setting whereby every participant in the call has to be approved by the organiser (teacher in this instance). So everyone that accesses the id goes into a holding room, before being let in by the organiser. Zoombombing eradicated.

As you know mate, I know zip about IT and all that. But my point was that I asked why the unions were not keen on virtual lessons cos I thought they were a good idea.

Their reason was "concerns about security".

I think that is a valid reason to not run headlong into them.
 
You can easily hack into a meeting if you know the meeting id, but as mentioned before, the easy way round that is to use the setting whereby every participant in the call has to be approved by the organiser (teacher in this instance). So everyone that accesses the id goes into a holding room, before being let in by the organiser. Zoombombing eradicated.

My eldest lad goes to school with a lot of second and third generation Somali kids.

It`s just not " doable " in some of their households, as a lot of them live in houses with three generations under one roof, so there is no space at all for them to use the likes of zoom in privacy. I expect this applies to a lot of other non Muslim kids too in State Schools.

His mates who are in Public Schools are using "live " teaching, but strangely enough non of them have three generations living under one roof lol
 
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