Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Bruce Wayne]

As you know mate, I know zip about IT and all that. But my point was that I asked why the unions were not keen on virtual lessons cos I thought they were a good idea.

Their reason was "concerns about security".

I think that is a valid reason to not run headlong into them.

Aye, a few have had some embarrassing mishaps by not really understanding the tech, which is a shame. As highlighted below, there are some obvious concerns around inequality as well, whether due to poor internet connectivity, lack of space in the home, or generally a poor environment for any kind of learning. All of which are fantastic reasons why it's so important that kids can go back to school if possible.

My eldest lad goes to school with a lot of second and third generation Somali kids, whose families are very devout Muslims.

It`s just not " doable " in some of their households, as a lot of them live in houses with three generations under one roof, so there is no space at all for them to use the likes of zoom in privacy. I expect this applies to a lot of other non Muslim kids too in State Schools.

His mates who are in Public Schools are using "live " teaching, but strangely enough non of them have three generations living under one roof lol

Oh man, you wouldn't believe some of the stories the wife comes back with. The environment many live in really is a hidden tragedy, and I can only imagine the difficulties it places not just on kids trying to study at home, but adults trying to work from home. Extremely challenging situation. I'm sure every stone will be unturned to try and figure out a solution, and hopefully collectively they manage to sort something out.

 

[davek]

The infection rate in the UK has gone up and is close to the point where the virus starts spreading rapidly, government scientific advice says.
The so-called "R-number" is now between 0.7 and 1.0 - it needs to be kept below one in order to stay in control.
The rise in the figures is thought to be driven by the virus spreading in care homes and hospitals.
The effect of the changes to lockdown announced by the prime minister on Sunday is still unknown.
The R-number had been sitting between 0.5 and 0.9. Any increase limits the ability of politicians to lift lockdown measures.
Health secretary Matt Hancock said the R-number was an "incredibly important figure" and it was important to note "we don't think that it is above one".

Reassuring.

 

[COYBL25]

Aye, a few have had some embarrassing mishaps by not really understanding the tech, which is a shame. As highlighted below, there are some obvious concerns around inequality as well, whether due to poor internet connectivity, lack of space in the home, or generally a poor environment for any kind of learning. All of which are fantastic reasons why it's so important that kids can go back to school if possible.



Oh man, you wouldn't believe some of the stories the wife comes back with. The environment many live in really is a hidden tragedy, and I can only imagine the difficulties it places not just on kids trying to study at home, but adults trying to work from home. Extremely challenging situation. I'm sure every stone will be unturned to try and figure out a solution, and hopefully collectively they manage to sort something out.

It’s an absolute minefield mate and it’s nowhere near as straightforward as some on here seem to think.

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

There's a lag on the R value so its probably about 2 now.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Aye, a few have had some embarrassing mishaps by not really understanding the tech, which is a shame. As highlighted below, there are some obvious concerns around inequality as well, whether due to poor internet connectivity, lack of space in the home, or generally a poor environment for any kind of learning. All of which are fantastic reasons why it's so important that kids can go back to school if possible.



Oh man, you wouldn't believe some of the stories the wife comes back with. The environment many live in really is a hidden tragedy, and I can only imagine the difficulties it places not just on kids trying to study at home, but adults trying to work from home. Extremely challenging situation. I'm sure every stone will be unturned to try and figure out a solution, and hopefully collectively they manage to sort something out.

Having had to oversee safeguarding in a role and reading the reports, you wouldn't believe. Very difficulty to decide on 'personal choice' vs lack of capacity.

 

[Jebus_lives]

To add to the 'schools' chat

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[roydo]

There's a lag on the R value so its probably about 2 now.

24 cases in London.

4000 in the North East.

A day. So its obvious that there are hot spots. Wouldnt mind knowing where personally, but a creep up seems inevitable.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Joey66]

It doesn't seem like schools have done much to prepare for the return of pupils. Compare how fast the supermarkets adapted and its incomparable.

How do toddlers social distance Bruce - also Hancock saying it's safe ......urm he stated that about the care homes in mid March some safety he needs the sack ! useless minister......can't believe a word he says tbh......

 

[roydo]

Thats been the scene over here for weeks. Max of 10 iirc. No hugs, social distancing, grim.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Opinion | 10-4: How to Reopen the Economy by Exploiting the Coronavirus’s Weak Spot

People can work in two-week cycles, on the job for four days then, by the time they might become infectious, 10 days at home in lockdown.

www.nytimes.com

If we cannot resume economic activity without causing a resurgence of Covid-19 infections, we face a grim, unpredictable future of opening and closing schools and businesses. We can find a way out of this dilemma by exploiting a key property of the virus: its latent period — the three-day delay on average between the time a person is infected and the time he or she can infect others. People can work in two-week cycles, on the job for four days then, by the time they might become infectious, 10 days at home in lockdown. The strategy works even better when the population is split into two groups of households working alternating weeks. Austrian school officials will adopt a simple version — with two groups of students attending school for five days every two weeks — starting May 18.

Models we created at the Weizmann Institute in Israel predict that this two-week cycle can reduce the virus’s reproduction number — the average number of people infected by each infected person — below one. So a 10-4 cycle could suppress the epidemic while allowing sustainable economic activity. Even if someone is infected, and without symptoms, he or she would be in contact with people outside their household for only four days every two weeks, not 10 days, as with a normal schedule. This strategy packs another punch: It reduces the density of people at work and school, thus curtailing the transmission of the virus.

Schools could have students attend for four consecutive days every two weeks, in two alternating groups, and use distance-learning methods on the other school days. Children would go to school on the same days as their parents go to work. Businesses would work almost continuously, alternating between two groups of workers, for regular and predictable production. This would increase consumer confidence, shoring up supply and demand simultaneously.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Great thats the missus pestering me to spend even more money during lockdown

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

24 cases in London.

4000 in the North East.

A day. So its obvious that there are hot spots. Wouldnt mind knowing where personally, but a creep up seems inevitable.

London have squashed it massively, they'll rise again I think. They say deprived areas are hot spots so small towns in the north I'd imagine.
If the R is 0.4 in London that is incredible. The rest of the country is double that.

 

[Chewbacca]

London have squashed it massively, they'll rise again I think. They say deprived areas are hot spots so small towns in the north I'd imagine.
If the R is 0.4 in London that is incredible. The rest of the country is double that.

There are many towns and villages in the old East Durham coalfields that are massively skewed towards the elderly as all the young got on Norman Tebbit’s Dad’s bike.

And it would be interesting to see the numbers for Gateshead and Low Fell as the UK’s second largest Hasidic community is there and they are completely ignoring lockdown