Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Utter utter nonsense.

The millions of low grade office workers up and down the country say Hi.

Low grade office workers will not all be working from home.

Many of them will be admin staff or front of house style staff who need the normal set up to do their job.
 
It goes back to what I said here though mate;



A lot of it is tribalism and being deliberately obtuse.

There's no perfect solution or fix, but its common sense to me that they'll gradually ease restrictions. Take the first point;

* 4 year olds can go to school but university students who...

4 year olds are dependant/parents who need to go to work.
University students can study remotely.

Will any country allow all schools and all year groups/students to return the same day?! That would seem foolish to me.
It was quite a funny post but you can go through each one of those points, as you did with the 4yo and come up with a valid reason why the decisions were made.

The problem is there are no hard and fast solutions, never mind solutions that will suit everybody. Every decision made will upset somebody, and some people, especially on here seemingly, will be upset whatever decision is made
 
Boris Johnson's lockdown roadmap reveals DIY face masks are to be worn for shopping and using public transport

DIY face masks should be worn for shopping and using public transport from Wednesday, the Government announced this afternoon in the Prime Minister’s roadmap towards “hope” after lockdown.



New freedoms to work, exercise and meet friends or relatives were unveiled by Boris Johnson, to start a phased shift towards a more normal way of life as time goes on.




But his blueprint advised people not to chat face-to-face in case they spray each other with coronavirus-carrying droplets. Instead people should stand next to each other and wash their clothes more often if working with other people.

A 50-page government document setting out the plan confirmed that from Wednesday everyone in England will have the right to meet one friend at a time in a public space as well as drive out for country walks or sunbathing at the beach. Holiday cottages remain out of bounds, however.




It warned of economic “scarring” the longer that lockdown drags on, and said those who cannot work from home should now be encouraged to venture back to factories and construction sites, providing social distancing and good hygiene are maintained.


Government experts admitted there was a trade-off between the safety of the full lockdown and the benefits of easing it. One senior expert said of the extra freedom to enjoy the outdoors: “We are not claiming no risks. But they are very small and proportionate.”




Writing in the foreword, Mr Johnson stressed the need for caution - but also urged people to have hope.


“Our success containing the virus so far has been hard fought and hard won,” he wrote.

“So it is for that reason that we must proceed with the utmost care in the next phase, and avoid undoing what we have achieved.




“This document sets out a plan to rebuild the UK for a world with Covid-19. It is not a quick return to ‘normality.’ Nor does it lay out an easy answer. And, inevitably, parts of this plan will adapt as we learn more about the virus.”


He went on: “But it is a plan that should give the people of the United Kingdom hope. Hope that we can rebuild; hope that we can save lives; hope that we can safeguard livelihoods.”

As of 9 May, said the document, it is estimated that 136,000 people in England were infected with Covid-19.




The PM said a vaccine “may be more than a year away” and therefore his blueprint was needed to get the country running during the wait. He added “While we hope for a breakthrough, hope is not a plan.”


He said lockdown and the separation from relatives had been “tough” and the risk of loneliness real. “So, this plan seeks to return life to as close to normal as possible, for as many people as possible, as fast and fairly as possible.”

Face-coverings

For the first time the Government is now advising that people should aim to wear a face-covering from Wednesday in enclosed spaces where social distancing is not always possible - which includes shopping and on public transport.




It stated: “Homemade cloth face-coverings can help reduce the risk of transmission in some circumstances. Face-coverings are not intended to help the wearer, but to protect against inadvertent transmission of the disease to others if you have it asymptomatically.”


A Government expert explained: “If you think what would catch droplets coming out of your nose, most people’s common sense would tell them what to use.” Scarves are an option.


The public should not buy surgical masks or respirators used by the NHS as they are in short supply.




Face-coverings should not be used by children under the age of two, while young children may need help. “It is important to use face-coverings properly and wash your hands before putting them on and taking them off,” said the document.

Public spaces

New rules for going outside mean it will be OK, from Wednesday, to meet one other person in a public space such as a park. But social distancing and a gap of at least two metres must be kept.


A garden does not count as a public space, so friends or relatives cannot visit each other.


The document stresses the need for good hand hygiene and common sense.

Exercise with other people

People may exercise outside as many times each day as they wish. This would include angling, sailing and tennis, for example. But playgrounds, outdoor gyms and ticketed venues are all off limits.




Exercise is allowed with up to one person from outside your household – this means team sports are only possible with members of your own household, but tennis in a park is possible.


People may drive to outdoor open spaces irrespective of distance, so long as they respect social distancing guidance while they are there.

Economy

The document warned: “The longer the virus affects the economy, the greater the risks of long-term scarring and permanently lower economic activity, with business failures, persistently higher unemployment and lower earnings. This would damage the sustainability of the public finances and the ability to fund public services including the NHS. It would also likely lead to worse long-run physical and mental health outcomes, with a significant increase in the prevalence of chronic illness.”



Work

From Wednesday this week and “for the foreseeable future” everyone should work from home if possible to reduce infections and overcrowding on transport.


Those who cannot “should travel to work if their workplace is open”. Sectors of the economy that are allowed to be open should be open, for example, food production, construction, manufacturing, and scientific research in laboratories. Hospitality and non-essential retail should remain closed. New guidelines are due tomorrow called “COVID-19 Secure” on how to cut the risk of infection at work.

Schools

Nervous parents will not be “fined” if they keep children off when schools finally reopen but they will be “strongly encouraged” to let them go.




Now: The rate of infection remains too high to allow all schools to reopen so priority should be given to vulnerable children and the children of critical workers for the time being.


From June onwards if infections rare low: Primaries could open for reception, Year One and Year Six pupils. Secondaries could open for teens with exams.


Children’s playground must stay shut for the time being.

Travel

Everybody (including critical workers) “should avoid public transport wherever possible”. Those able to walk, cycle or drive should do so.




Pop-up cycle lanes and wider pavements will be rushed out. Where trains and buses are used, social distancing guidance for public transport “must be followed”, including from Wednesday the use of face coverings.


The document warned that tougher rules will have to come back if people try to cheat or cut corners. “These measures may come with some risk; it is important that everyone continues to act responsibly, as the large majority have done to date. The infection rate will increase if people begin to break these rules and, for example, mix in groups in parks, which will trigger the need for further restrictions.”


It revealed that June 6 is the date by which everyone in care homes including people with no Covid-19 symptoms will be tested.
 
But your's is a counter-factual argument: "If a lockdown was in place back then...".

It wasn't, and your argument falls.
So let me get this right: The pandemic was scaremongering by a Government wanting to create fear among it's public which should be rallied against, but you would've welcomed a military enforced lockdown at that point; but now you've decided that the Government actually weren't scaremongering but didn't do enough and are murders by their inaction, you've decided that a military enforced lockdown and Peterloo style massacre/charge is acceptable from a Government that presumably should've tried to create fear among the public?

Have i got that right?
 
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