Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

The governments handling of this virus.

 

[Roger Milla]

The lockdown has been too successful apparently.

By that, I can only assume they have still managed to murder an adequate amount of people dispute telling certain people not to work

 

[Minimeister]

The governments handling of this virus.

Or the ones by the canal where they had the scary looking grim reaper hanging around while little Jimmy was playing on the banks

That's what they should have done here, go out and you meet the grim reaper you stupid idiots.

 

[coollino]

Robert Jenrick on Marr there, said “‘Stay Alert’ means stay at home as much as possible”.

Gonna be a communications mess where people end up doing whatever they want, and putting others at risk.

Surely the place everyone is least alert is when they are in the safety of their own home?

 

[davek]

Robert Jenrick on Marr there, said “‘Stay Alert’ means stay at home as much as possible”.

Gonna be a communications mess where people end up doing whatever they want, and putting others at risk.

...as opposed to the (rational minded) Scottish Government health minister: "your front door is your best protection against this virus, keep it shut".

 

[zzr45]

was it though ? I think what was needed was a coherent message and coherent enforcement of that . I don’t think any of examples of police officers telling a elderly woman to move from a bench , telling a householder their children weren’t allowed in the garden or speculation That police would check shopping were in any way helpful . Were the police messages/guidelines of “you can can drive as for as long as you exercise “ useful or helpful ?

The message from authorities, be that police or government across the board seems to have been confused at best . Now that may well have been due to the message coming down from the top but if your message isn’t clear and concise it’s going to cause problems .

That depends though, if it had become clear that there was zero percent tolerance from the start, it would have likely cut down a lot. Telling an elderly woman to move from a bench might seem extreme, but she shouldn’t technically have been out and reduces the spread, checking the shopping would of cut back on the number of spurious visits and potential spread. People demanded a lockdown then when they got one seemed to be rather uncomfortable with it.

 

[davek]

That’s my point.

The ambiguity and lack of substance allows for them to not be held accountable.

‘We told people to be careful. They just ignored us. What could we do? It was *people* who chose this’.

Personal responsibility, and we know we have country full of sensible and empathetic people, its how we ended up with Johnson and Cummings after all...

The other thing about the regionalisation of this approach is that it destroys at a stroke the notion that "we're all in this together".

That will be smashed to pieces when some people look at others allowed to do things they cant....and that will lead to a race to the bottom in terms of standards of safety.


This is catastrophe upon catastrophe.

 

[Walken]

I'm surprised the tories haven't gotten David Prowse out of retirement to really drum home this vitally ambiguous message

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Or the ones by the canal where they had the scary looking grim reaper hanging around while little Jimmy was playing on the banks

That's what they should have done here, go out and you meet the grim reaper you stupid idiots.

A time when the stuff that was put out was straight to the point and scared you shitless if you were a kid. Nowadays it's all about molly codling.

 

[Harryflashman]

That depends though, if it had become clear that there was zero percent tolerance from the start, it would have likely cut down a lot. Telling an elderly woman to move from a bench might seem extreme, but she shouldn’t technically have been out and reduces the spread, checking the shopping would of cut back on the number of spurious visits and potential spread. People demanded a lockdown then when they got one seemed to be rather uncomfortable with it.

yeah but the lockdown didn’t say what you’re saying it said Or should . The police can’t enforce stuff because it maybe should happen or it’d be better for the country or the government had introduce it .

I’d suggest there was zero authority for the police to check shopping. If the government wanted the public not to buy stuff from shops id suggest there is a really easy way . I refer you again to confused messaging .

 

[Jebus_lives]

Guarantee which ever over paid idiot who came up with this parties latest detail lacking headline, has the ironic title of strategist

It's not aimed at saving lives, it's aimed at 'getting the country moving again' and shifting responsibility to individuals rather than central Government.

 

[Jebus_lives]

A time when the stuff that was put out was straight to the point and scared you shitless if you were a kid. Nowadays it's all about molly codling.

Chin up
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Mind how you go
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Stay lucky

 

[Jebus_lives]

Can't remember who it was, but sometime on the thread seemed to be unsure about the concept of Laissez Faire government...

The new Government strategy is it.

 

[bluenorsky]

or neo liberalism even.

 

[Neiler]

The longer this goes the more we prove we are just base creatures at the end of the day, destined to inch toward anarchy as threat grows, if you havent read the lord of the flies do:

Armed black citizens escort Michigan lawmaker to capitol after volatile rightwing protest

State representative Sarah Anthony says she wanted to highlight failure of policing after armed white protesters demonstrated

www.theguardian.com