Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

Well the Government messaging has gone from red stay at home messages to green stay alert. It's everything back to normal now...

There's 5 stages to it: green being 1, red being 5....funnily enough, all the pre-publicity has green for go on them.

They want the furlough cash to stop being paid, and they'll kill hundreds of thousands to make it happen...and they'll point the finger at individual regional authorities for overseeing the end of the lockdown in their areas (authorities that will come under massive pressure from local chambers of commerce etc to open up for business again).

This is a very special kind of cowardice and irresopnsibility we're seeing here.

You know those times in the past when you looked at what was happening abroad in some hell hole nations and banana rebublics and thought "thank goodness it's not us"?...well that's what the whole world's population are saying about us now. They are looking on horrified at the carnage.

 

[bullybeef]

We all know a second, and probably even more deadly, wave is coming.

Until we get a vaccine we’re screwed.

 

[PhilM]

The Police Federation have came out and criticised the lack of support and direction from the government, which you could argue has caused the situation we saw.

To change direction now and become more stringent in term of enforcement would bring its own difficulties.

The government's pandemic response has been "wishy-washy", a body representing police officers in London has told BBC Radio 4, amid concerns that the public has begun ignoring lockdown restrictions.

Metropolitan Police Federation chairman Ken Marsh said authorities "needed to be firmer right from the beginning".

"Had we been very stringent from the off - it is painful, but it’s not overly painful in terms of what you’re actually being asked to do - then I think we would have a better result now," Marsh said.

 

[arminisgod]

We all know a second, and probably even more deadly, wave is coming.

Until we get a vaccine we’re screwed.

why would it be more deadly?

 

[mill]

That’s my point.

The ambiguity and lack of substance allows for them to not be held accountable.

‘We told people to be careful. They just ignored us. What could we do? It was *people* who chose this’.

 

[COYBL25]

The Police Federation have came out and criticised the lack of support and direction from the government, which you could argue has caused the situation we saw.

To change direction now and become more stringent in term of enforcement would bring its own difficulties.

The way I read the last sentence, it`s a thinly veiled implication of potential civil disorder if the Police start getting heavy handed now.

 

[bullybeef]

why would it be more deadly?

The Spanish flu was.

I think it was due to the country celebrating its initial supposed defeat, in scenes not too dissimilar to some of the VE Day celebrations on Friday.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Looks like papers printing rubbish to me. Especially one on the bottom right...

The media have been an absolute joke through all this.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

That’s my point.

The ambiguity and lack of substance allows for them to not be held accountable.

‘We told people to be careful. They just ignored us. What could we do? It was *people* who chose this’.

Personal responsibility, and we know we have country full of sensible and empathetic people, its how we ended up with Johnson and Cummings after all...

 

[PhilM]

The way I read the last sentence, it`s a thinly veiled implication of potential civil disorder if the Police start getting heavy handed now.

I took it more as perhaps the much heralded policing by consent being somewhat tested, and there may have been some criticism from parts of the press.

If the direction changed now, I suspect there'd been a fair legal challenges because of the precedent set and the population may be less supportive.

Add to that, the number of people out has already grew significantly, so enforcement in itself would be more difficult. Civil disorder would be more protests I think.

 

[Walken]

Guarantee which ever over paid idiot who came up with this parties latest detail lacking headline, has the ironic title of strategist

 

[zzr45]

The Police Federation have came out and criticised the lack of support and direction from the government, which you could argue has caused the situation we saw.

To change direction now and become more stringent in term of enforcement would bring its own difficulties.

The media and public are as equally to blame though, there was countless stories at the start about the police being ‘too heavy handed’ when actually it was what was required.

The government have been incredibly weak into kotowing to the angry mob and as a result it’s been an utter mess.

 

[Amw79]

Robert Jenrick on Marr there, said “‘Stay Alert’ means stay at home as much as possible”.

Gonna be a communications mess where people end up doing whatever they want, and putting others at risk.

 

[arminisgod]

The Spanish flu was.

I think it was due to the country celebrating its initial supposed defeat, in scenes not too dissimilar to some of the VE Day celebrations on Friday.

Simply can't compare the 2. Flu has a habit of mutating to a deadlier strain. Coronavirus the opposite.

Also in 1918 people didn't understand how things were spread very well

 

[Harryflashman]

The media and public are as equally to blame though, there was countless stories at the start about the police being ‘too heavy handed’ when actually it was what was required.

The government have been incredibly weak into kotowing to the angry mob and as a result it’s been an utter mess.

was it though ? I think what was needed was a coherent message and coherent enforcement of that . I don’t think any of examples of police officers telling a elderly woman to move from a bench , telling a householder their children weren’t allowed in the garden or speculation That police would check shopping were in any way helpful . Were the police messages/guidelines of “you can can drive as for as long as you exercise “ useful or helpful ?

The message from authorities, be that police or government across the board seems to have been confused at best . Now that may well have been due to the message coming down from the top but if your message isn’t clear and concise it’s going to cause problems .