Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Barnfred 55 said:
People are celebrating an end of the war.

Unless you were actually there, you have absolutely no idea what people were thinking at the time. I'm old enough to have grown up with people who went through it. My parents fought in the war as did many aunts and uncles. My grandparents lived through it. The one thing they all have in common is that they never ever spoke about it, not in detail anyway. They spoke about things like rationing but never the violence or the killing, even if asked about it. To insinuate that they were celebrating the war, and that they in some way actually enjoyed it, which is what you are doing, is quite simply sickening and has absolutely no substance to it other than your own warped opinion.

People at the time were celebrating that the war was over, that the killing was over, and that their lives could hopefully start the long road of returning to some sort of normality. People now are remembering that occasion. You can either join in that celebration or you don't. It's your choice. It seems to be completely lost on you that the right of choice you have is actually because of the events that happened 75 years ago.

As regards Germany, they too were celebrating yesterday. They were celebrating both the end of the war and also being released from the tyranny that was the Nazi party.
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You are missing the point here and reeling off the classic baby-boomer narrative.

There is nothing wrong with people celebrating at the time, I get that and it makes sense.

It is now 2020. The military are being fetishized and there have been many of questionable wars.

If people wanted to remember it at home privately, which I am sure they did, thats fine.

The government are using it for PR, people are dying each day, people are ignoring social distancing to do the conga, to by bunting and for an ethnic cleanser deliver a speech. This all happened yesterday and people may die because of this in 15 days time.

And then there are happy dressing up in all happy clappy 1940's stuff like it was a novelty.

But if want to hang on to a something that happened 75 years ago, you do that.
 
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orly said:
How is it? Being in the EU (wrong) and illegal immigration being blamed for the C-19 death figures - this is the right place to challenge those sorts of statements.

If this sort of thing goes unquestioned it becomes accepted.

@Bruce Wayne might be a Lamborghini Gallardo driving One Nation Tory but he deserves a bit better than to be hissed at by the LBC Socialist
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Hahaha
 
davek said:
We are a primitive society compared to this people.


The west in general will suffer a catastrophic loss of status after all this. The UK in particular has been stone age in its response.
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Our sense of superiority out west always surprises, such a rich and wise cultures out east, even the sense of community is impressive in suppression, you will find an odd exception like most things, but in general, the east in many ways has become richer then the west.

Nothing like a crisis to separate the men from the boys,
 
YoboCopter said:
This , it actually feels like a carnival sort of atmosphere everyone out drinking and mostly care free

Gotta accept it like you said and move on, everyones bored of the media scaremongering
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Having just driven through Speke and ran the length of Garston shore and back, I can confirm that big gatherings with bbq’s, loads of ale and spliffs are the order of the day.
 
coollino said:
You are missing the point here and reeling off the classic baby-boomer narrative.

There is nothing wrong with people celebrating at the time, I get that and it makes sense.

It is now 2020. The military are being fetishized and there have been many of questionable wars.

If people wanted to remember it at home privately, which I am sure they did, thats fine.

The government are using it for PR, people are dying each day, people are ignoring social distancing to do the conga, to by bunting and for an ethnic cleanser deliver a speech. This all happened yesterday and people may die because of this in 15 days time.

And then there are happy dressing up in all happy clappy 1940's stuff like it was a novelty.

But if want to hang on to a something that happened 75 years ago, you do that.
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Many countries do similar for similar things, July 4th, Orange day parades, Malvinas Day, celebrating wars from an awful long times ago or even celebrating the start of a war !. I have no problem with celebrating VE Day, we don’t do it every year and it is important for those people who actually fought in it to remember just what they were fighting. We are not alone in celebrating this day, Germany remembers as does Russia, because millions of people died. Personally I would prefer just a single day of remembrance each year, Remembrance Sunday, but if people wish to celebrate or remember past conflicts I would not argue with them, just perhaps not take part.......
 
Megatron said:
Well I’ve just seen the problems with dickheads thinking lockdown is coming to an end, gangs of kids around 15-16 year olds on them gd scrambler bikes just been scrapping with police right at the top of my road, helicopters all round the area :rant::rant::rant:
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Which hood do you reside in my frandel?

Similar story round here, lockdown ended last week in my hood, every tit is out and about, the smell of BBQ, skunk and mad dog 2020 fills the air.
 
Meanwhile, in Sensible Town, been the quietest day probably all week.

Dropped some stuff at my parents, drove past the Lake Grounds, (massive open space with a big lake and open air pool), which would be packed usually. Its a magnet for folk from south Bristol on days like today.

Seen it busier in November.
 
roydo said:
Meanwhile, in Sensible Town, been the quietest day probably all week.

Dropped some stuff at my parents, drove past the Lake Grounds, (massive open space with a big lake and open air pool), which would be packed usually. Its a magnet for folk from south Bristol on days like today.

Seen it busier in November.
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From what I can see this is the weekend it all finished. People have had enough and dont care anymore. It was always going to happen at some stage.
 
peteblue said:
Many countries do similar for similar things, July 4th, Orange day parades, Malvinas Day, celebrating wars from an awful long times ago or even celebrating the start of a war !. I have no problem with celebrating VE Day, we don’t do it every year and it is important for those people who actually fought in it to remember just what they were fighting. We are not alone in celebrating this day, Germany remembers as does Russia, because millions of people died. Personally I would prefer just a single day of remembrance each year, Remembrance Sunday, but if people wish to celebrate or remember past conflicts I would not argue with them, just perhaps not take part.......
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Be also nice, if they remembered those still living as well as those who died from those generations.

www.theguardian.com

'Harvesting' is a terrible word – but it's what has happened in Britain's care homes | Richard Coker

Epidemiologists use the term to describe tragic excess deaths – but for Covid-19 it seems to be the de facto government policy, says professor of public health Richard Coker
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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