Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Harryflashman]

Is there any approximate overall figure mate?

I can tell you from anecdotal first hand experience during this there have been some large scale deaths at a few local care homes, not quite double figures at individual homes but very close to it . I think a home on the Wirral May be due to announce something similar or possibly even worse .

It’s a tragedy and to be honest It feels more than that it feels shameful .

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

A truly backward nation.

I thought prayer on government property was illegal in the states.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Out of interest, what is the death toll in Liverpool?

318 from 1503 cases

 

[Jay]

If there was no trust in the central government. What was the organisation locally like to contain and deal with the virus?

Media played a huge role, at the start of the outbreak on all local TV stations all we could see were interviews with doctors and experts who were telling both the government and people what to do, the government had to follow those instructions simply because the average Joe like myself listening to the experts and being convinced forced them, we didn't have any community spread yet, 95% of the cases are related to a previous positive case, any new case without any connection to a previous case the whole neighbourhood goes into lockdown and family/neighbours/contacts get tested for 14 days while being isolated to stop the spread, life is pretty much normal now, any local outbreak will be taken care of locally without closing the whole country (test/trace/isolate)

 

[Charro]

Take your tedious Cold War nonsense elsewhere and focus on the GBCP not the CCP.

I’ll do both mate and I suggest you do the same because they’re both as complicit.

Not going to tell me where I’m wrong then?

 

[Joey66]

Oh grow up Joey, you're going after Bruce because he's made you look a prat repeatedly. You're an intellectual lightweight who peddles LBC xenophobia

Grow up your havin a laugh.....

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Is there any approximate overall figure mate?

Couldn't find an overall total mate, just hospital deaths.

Nearly a quarter of people who go to hospital with coronavirus in Liverpool hospitals - 22 per cent - have died, compared to a case fatality rate across all UK hospitals of 13 per cent.

 

[Joey66]

My grandad was in the war and he never spoke about it. This the generation after that that wear it as some weird badge of honour.

Once this virus is controlled, are we going to clap every year for the NHS?

perhaps yes if they save lives on the pit face against bad odds =Yes......

 

[davek]

I can tell you from anecdotal first hand experience during this there have been some large scale deaths at a few local care homes, not quite double figures at individual homes but very close to it . I think a home on the Wirral May be due to announce something similar or possibly even worse .

It’s a tragedy and to be honest It feels more than that it feels shameful .

One in Crosby had a high death toll too.

It's unnerving and very upsetting. We can talk and debate on here and experience the cut and thrust of that debate, but its happening all around us and I feel a sense of revulsion and disempowerment.

I just cant believe we have people talking about normalising all this.

 

[davek]

Couldn't find an overall total mate, just hospital deaths.

Nearly a quarter of people who go to hospital with coronavirus in Liverpool hospitals - 22 per cent - have died, compared to a case fatality rate across all UK hospitals of 13 per cent.

Just awful. I know places like Salford have been badly hit also...the region's worst hit town in fact.

 

[PhilM]

My grandad was in the war and he never spoke about it. This the generation after that that wear it as some weird badge of honour.

Once this virus is controlled, are we going to clap every year for the NHS?

I think you are probably aware that there's a stark difference between the impact in lives between UK dead from COIVD-19 and those who died in WWII.

That's before talking into account injuries and economic impact along with the fact that many of the servicemen not really having a choice whether to participate.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think this whole celebration or glorification is right, but I do feel it is very important that we remember what occurred during the war.

COVID-19, to the best of our knowledge, didn't occur simply because of the choices of men and nor did it result in millions and millions (3% of the world) dying.

If we shun our history to mere books and do not ensure that is kept in our consciousness, I worry that the atrocities that happened could easily happen again.

Was the world perfect after it? No. Were there many mistakes? Yes. However, if you consider the world in '40, '41 or even '44 with post-war I suspect it improved.

Some people do glorify and marvel in war and yes it may also be viewed in some rose-tinted glasses, but that is better than simply forgetting about what occurred.

Why servicemen and women do not talk about the war is a totally different matter entirely, and one that if you haven't served probably find it difficult to comprehend.

 

[davek]

I’ll do both mate and I suggest you do the same because they’re both as complicit.

Not going to tell me where I’m wrong then?

You're wrong in yoking two issues together.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

However, coupled with this he was a man possessed of principle and physical courage.

He accepted responsibility for failings at Gallipoli that he couldnt have even known about, let alone influenced. Not only did he resign he sent himself to the western front. Not to sit in a chateau as a staff officer but as a frontline major who, by all accounts led from the front. It's this, and his intellect, that rather set him apart from Boris' washed out tribute act...

And we could go tit for tat all day, he was such a Liberal he opposed Suffergete movement, like I said a man of his time, given the context of the period he is more well known for, not incredibly difficult.

 

[bigjonny]

Is there any approximate overall figure mate?

397 up to 24th April in Liverpool

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

And we could go tit for tat all day, he was such a Liberal he opposed Suffergete movement, like I said a man of his time, given the context of the period he is more well known for, not incredibly difficult.

I'm genuinely not tit for tatting I find his contradictions both fascinating and frustrating as a student of history.

If you haven't read it, I heartily recommend Roy Jenkins biography.