Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[sbbefc]

Absolutely. Whoever was involved in making this happen certainly put a shift in....

5 or so weeks behind Germany...

 

[COYBL25]

The smell of skunk gently drifting across the local parks tells me that Liverpool is slowly starting to return to normal lol

 

[Jebus_lives]

That was also the point I was making regarding the flu jabs that you highlighted. Well done.......and thank you...

Getting tests to people is one thing, getting those tests processed is another thing entirely.
But, I'm not really bothered about an arbitrary figure, testing capacity is increasing, that's the important thing.

 

[Goat]

The smell of skunk gently drifting across the local parks tells me that Liverpool is slowly starting to return to normal lol

Everton, Everton, Everton

 

[peteblue]

Getting tests to people is one thing, getting those tests processed is another thing entirely.
But, I'm not really bothered about an arbitrary figure, testing capacity is increasing, that's the important thing.

105,000 yesterday apparently.....

 

[COYBL25]

Everton, Everton, Everton

lol

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[Walken]

I think he made a mistake by caving into the media pressure for an arbitrary testing target, but he's right in highlighting just how many people have been working to improve the country's testing infrastructure. When people have a pop, I suspect they have no idea whatsoever of the problems Hancock clearly states they've had, nor how these people have striven to overcome them, yet you're having a pop at them nonetheless.

No one is doing that, the main complaint has been the self inflicted government desire to have an arbitrary number that they have then gone down their normal road of misinformation with.

As you have been doing for a few days now, you are trying to place a guilt on people they dont deserve. God only knows why

 

[Bruce Wayne]

No one is doing that, the main complaint has been the self inflicted government desire to have an arbitrary number that they have then gone down their normal road of misinformation with.

As you have been doing for a few days now, you are trying to place a guilt on people they dont deserve. God only knows why

As I said, they (Hancock) shouldn't have set such a target. If I cast my mind back to the days before he announced it, ministers and others were getting hammered by the likes of Piers Morgan for apparent poor performance with testing, and so out popped a magic number because they kept hectoring for one. That things were fiddled to ensure the target was met is no real surprise, as it's what happens with most targets in life. Any kind of organisational experience can attest to that, and it's what I've said ever since it was announced.

What bothers me with those who jump on the progress (or lack thereof) in terms of meeting that target is that they almost certainly have no idea what the challenges have been in improving testing capacity, or what work has gone into overcoming those challenges. Yet despite this undoubted ignorance, they continue their abuse regardless. They seem oblivious to the fact that it's not just Hancock they're abusing, but the people in all of the organisations Hancock references who have been working on this challenge.

We clap NHS workers every week, yet seem happy to abuse those who work in the procurement or testing. I just wish we were more forgiving and kinder to all people during this time. Heaven knows, it's almost certain that neither you nor I could do any better.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

And would you seriously believe everything he says. Seriously!

Even a broken clock is right twice a day...

 

[Jebus_lives]

105,000 yesterday apparently.....

As I said, I wouldn't bother too much about the actual figure. It does nothing but invites partisan responses.

 

[Walken]

As I said, they (Hancock) shouldn't have set such a target. If I cast my mind back to the days before he announced it, ministers and others were getting hammered by the likes of Piers Morgan for apparent poor performance with testing, and so out popped a magic number because they kept hectoring for one. That things were fiddled to ensure the target was met is no real surprise, as it's what happens with most targets in life. Any kind of organisational experience can attest to that, and it's what I've said ever since it was announced.

What bothers me with those who jump on the progress (or lack thereof) in terms of meeting that target is that they almost certainly have no idea what the challenges have been in improving testing capacity, or what work has gone into overcoming those challenges. Yet despite this undoubted ignorance, they continue their abuse regardless. They seem oblivious to the fact that it's not just Hancock they're abusing, but the people in all of the organisations Hancock references who have been working on this challenge.

We clap NHS workers every week, yet seem happy to abuse those who work in the procurement or testing. I just wish we were more forgiving and kinder to all people during this time. Heaven knows, it's almost certain that neither you nor I could do any better.

Apparent poor perfroming in testing?
That is as laughable as you attempts to turn critics of the government into abusers of medical staff and researchers. You are perfectly happy to dismiss outright lying of figures but gleeful in your demonizing of those that point it out (or anything for that matter). I'll be tuning out as you've disappeared up your own arsehole in this thread.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Yeah, that says absolutely nothing about it being made in a lab. It says the Chinese suppressed reports. Which we all knew.

You might as well have pasted a copy to the last video you watched on Pornhub. It might have had a little more relevance to your claims.

You are getting worried aren't you mate I can tell, a little more time and it will all come out...

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Donald is shining a light into all manner of dark spaces, I hear.

And would you seriously believe everything he says. Seriously!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Apparent poor perfroming in testing?
That is as laughable as you attempts to turn critics of the government into abusers of medical staff and researchers. You are perfectly happy to dismiss outright lying of figures but gleeful in your demonizing of those that point it out (or anything for that matter). I'll be tuning out as you've disappeared up your own arsehole in this thread.

I'm not surprised that politicians will try and make themselves look good. Are you? It's a bit like the welfare side of this debate. I said at the time that while Sunak's policy was largely a good one, actually delivering on it would be very difficult, especially since there has already been so many difficulties administering universal credit. Sunak won't be there licking down the envelopes, so if people flock to Twitter and start haranguing the government for poor performance, who do they think they're pointing the finger at?

When people say "yaboo, we've only done xx,xxx tests", who do you think you're pointing the finger at for that? Who are you calling incompetent? There are numerous issues in life that are pretty partisan, and you could very easily find fault in the direction a government takes on account of that, but to my knowledge there's no partisan response to pandemics. There's no Labour pandemic manual that's different to the Tory pandemic manual.