Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Bruce Wayne said:
It's wholly unscientific and anecdotal, but I was amazed how many of my wife's team refuse to have the vaccine because they don't believe in it. I wouldn't suggest that alone accounts for the entirety of those who don't have it, but given the profession they're in, it is perhaps a lot more than the general public might think.
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There is some statistical data to suggest it's about 75% uptake or was when I last saw it
 
Brennan said:
Bit confused about the comments around Flu not being an issue for the NHS or “going as planned”.

The winter months are a nightmare for many nurses and doctors, and safety standards are frequently missed due to the burden of patients with flu hitting wards not designed to look after them.
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What I meant is that seasonal flu has been part of any UK winter like forever. So the NHS copes with the seasonal changes every year, so its "expected".
 
Bruce Wayne said:


I think he made a mistake by caving into the media pressure for an arbitrary testing target, but he's right in highlighting just how many people have been working to improve the country's testing infrastructure. When people have a pop, I suspect they have no idea whatsoever of the problems Hancock clearly states they've had, nor how these people have striven to overcome them, yet you're having a pop at them nonetheless.
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Absolutely. Whoever was involved in making this happen certainly put a shift in....
 
roydo said:
What I meant is that seasonal flu has been part of any UK winter like forever. So the NHS copes with the seasonal changes every year, so its "expected".
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It doesn’t cope though. Unless your definition of cope is people lying on beds in corridors for hours and patients dying from lack of care from overstretches nurses.

When she was in Salford Royal my partner would often have double or worse than the recommended nurse to patient ratio for most of November through February.
 
roydo said:
Sure it is, but the point I was making is that folk havnt a clue.
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Exactly. I'm not sure how much the UK idea the population has about what really is needed to run the NHS every year and about how much is needed to prepare and respond.

But my worry is that as good as the NHS is at adapting and flexing to meet need, if Covid19 runs on it will run right into seasonal flu period, where the NHS is normally pushed to it's maximum.
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
There is some statistical data to suggest it's about 75% uptake or was when I last saw it
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I wouldn't be surprised by that. My doubt was whether the 25% was made up of anti-vaxers or there was some other reason behind it. Was merely saying that the number of anti-vaxers in my wife's team was a lot higher than I would have expected for a team full of medical professionals.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
I wouldn't be surprised by that. My doubt was whether the 25% was made up of anti-vaxers or there was some other reason behind it. Was merely saying that the number of anti-vaxers in my wife's team was a lot higher than I would have expected for a team full of medical professionals.
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No I think done anti vaxers, but some who it's apathy.

I didn't get mine this year as I was ill every time I had it booked and as such when I got to end of February time and it was offered I didn't see much point as it takes about 2 weeks to become effective and the flu figures decrease massively at that point.

#partoftheproblem
 
Brennan said:
It doesn’t cope though. Unless your definition of cope is people lying on beds in corridors for hours and patients dying from lack of care from overstretches nurses.

When she was in Salford Royal my partner would often have double or worse than the recommended nurse to patient ratio for most of November through February.
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The conversation was about flu, flu jabs, that sort of stuff. I made an observation that most folk in the UK give either a moments thought because flu has been part of the fabric of the country for ever.

Hence its not unexpected within the NHS, so "cope" as in we dont all have to stay home for months to do our bit.
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
No I think done anti vaxers, but some who it's apathy.

I didn't get mine this year as I was ill every time I had it booked and as such when I got to end of February time and it was offered I didn't see much point as it takes about 2 weeks to become effective and the flu figures decrease massively at that point.

#partoftheproblem
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It's a bit bonkers really, as our trust here sent quite a strongly worded reminder round highlighting the virulence of the strain this year, after it had a huge impact in Australia, and urged staff to get protected. It took a little while to get supplies sorted, so we had ours done in a local Boots, but you'd imagine similar warnings would have been common throughout the NHS, as the impact this year's flu was having down under was so bad.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
It's a bit bonkers really, as our trust here sent quite a strongly worded reminder round highlighting the virulence of the strain this year, after it had a huge impact in Australia, and urged staff to get protected. It took a little while to get supplies sorted, so we had ours done in a local Boots, but you'd imagine similar warnings would have been common throughout the NHS, as the impact this year's flu was having down under was so bad.
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It was circulated quite wide among NHS staff. Can lead a horse to water...
 
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