Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Study from Holland: 13,884 healthcare workers aged between 18 to 69 were reported positive with COVID-19, out of which 458 were hospitalized, in total 9 people died with 6 of them are known to have existing health problems, with no information about the remaining 3.

The report mentions that healthcare workers are being tested due to the nature of their work while in the normal population they only test those who have been hospitalized or those who have per-existing conditions, which means the amount of people who were/are infected is much higher than the official numbers.

9 dead out of 13884 means 0.1% death-rate

Yeah but the death rate of the over 70s would bring that figure right up mate. I reckon the people saying 0.5 to 1% won't be far away.
 


It comes from Burgon, a prominent Labour voice, so obviously his use of data is 100% correct and certainly doesn't require contextualising in any way, despite the lamentations of those right-wing Tory voting gammons.


Our MPs are a joke, they really should be educated and held to standards on the use of misleading factoids like this.

Talking about all sides btw.
 
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Still not sure how a virtual beer tasting evening would work mind you. Suppose there's one way to find out. I'm a bit un-nerved by the thought of a Czech dj though :confused:

Most likely you pre-order their selection of beer and pick it up or get it delivered. Then all drink it together online.
 
Like the below, yet dyed in the wool Labourites haven't said a thing about it. Friend of the working man huh?


This is one of those situations where state intervention is needed. Some kind of aid plan for SMEs will be needed.
 
Like the below, yet dyed in the wool Labourites haven't said a thing about it. Friend of the working man huh?

What does this post even mean? Who are you attacking here?
 
I saw some pan-European data the other day that at the start of March, around 40% of startups had, I think, 3 months cash. So the end of this month is trouble time for a great many startups. In many ways, this is what I find a bit bewildering about the discourse around this, as you've got some very human stories attached to all this, and yet people are wanking themselves into a stupor around the precise number of tests the government have done or how they're counting the dead people. I don't get it tbh.
You dont get that people are concerned how many tests are carried out on a deadly virus, testing that could - in enough volume - prove to be a lifeline out of this crisis? You dont get that people are concerned about how many of their fellow citizens have perished in this virus; a volume of deaths - as other developed (or should I just say 'developed') nations' have shown - that could have been prevented?

Funnily enough, I DO get that interest myself.
 
Like the below, yet dyed in the wool Labourites haven't said a thing about it. Friend of the working man huh?


TBF the current apprenticeship system has very little in common with the concept of apprenticeship as it used to be, and taking away the guaranteed cash flow from the state was always going to wipe out the firms that had come into being / switched to provide training. Universities are going to be in an even worse state.

Perhaps we could finally return to the much more sensible situation where trades that employ people are responsible and pay for training them (and I emphatically include nursing in that).
 
Im really interested to see how the home testing kits work in the UK, i know the States are doing them to, are many other countries?. If they work its a really great break through and you would hope they get out to the majority of the population.

Ive been tested myself by a testing team - as its a prerequisite now in work. Not the nicest experience and more invasive then what the guidance shows on the NHS video, i wouldn't trust myself, to do it on myself and its really uncomfortable, so efficacy, competence and compliance would be a worry.

You dont pop them in the post do you - genuinely dont know? If so, seems a bit mad to pop potentially infected samples in the post.
 
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You dont get that people are concerned how many tests are carried out on a deadly virus, testing that could - in enough volume - prove to be a lifeline out of this crisis? You dont get that people are concerned about how many of their fellow citizens have perished in this virus; a volume of deaths - as other developed (or should I just say 'developed') nations' have shown - that could have been prevented?

Funnily enough, I DO get that interest myself.

Even Stepford Tories are having hard time justifying the contempt the Government holds the country in.
 
Even Stepford Tories are having hard time justifying the contempt the Government holds the country in.
I can see Bruce's point of view too, though, you know. It must be boring for him to have to read the concerns of others over how litle testing is done and how tens of thousands of deaths are being counted. If only we could all turn our attention to more pressing matters - like how three people in the Czech Republic have been caught in a park swigging a bottle of Budweiser.
 
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