Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Alright mate. Lets just guess who are dying, rather than test them.
Friends and families deserve the right to know what killed their loved ones.
97 year old died. Attributed to Covid19. He'd isolated for a month. Never tested, family left wondering whether that one time they dropped off a cake killed him. Will never know because no test.
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Enduring Powers of Attorney can be quite expensive. You'll probably find solicitors charging up to a £1000 per item. You can do them online yourself at gov.uk and when my wife did one I'm sure it only cost around £100 which included registration. As Joey said, you need to make sure you do it for health and finance. A lot of people just do it for finance because you have to pay for registering each, but health is the more important one when it comes to the practicalities.
Also you need to make sure that you do it at the first signs of dementia whilst they still know what they are doing. It can sometimes be a difficult subject to broach but you just have to overcome that hurdle.
£1000-1200 get the two combined we got ours for £850 if you shop around..... again it was pre dementia 4 years ago....
I know my friend has paid £1200 as his wife had full blown Alzheimer's it took a while as you stated but he got both cover as his daughter wanted to put her in a home......seeing how they get treated in this Covid 19 outbreak is the concerns any family member can have.....
My wife has stopped her mother three times being sent to a home - she mentions power of attorney asks for a hospital administrator, and a care plan with carers was set up 4 times per day which is a miniscule amount paid to the likes of a care home .......
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Total deaths in England and Wales vs Average of corresponding week over previous 5 years is interesting.
I would say this, out of all measures and comparisons, is easily the most relevant measure of the impact of the virus.
It’ll be even more relevant with a full year of data.
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They do, but all that proposal will do is not count the death in the COVID statistics, making them come down. It won’t give any information to the families of what killed their loved one.
The vast majority of community deaths are not people who have been tested whilst they were alive - if they had been, they’d probably have been admitted to hospital (given their condition and the +ve test).
What would give certainty is post-mortem testing, which is not something they are apparently doing (at least based on that statement).
That can be said about most life threatening diseases though mate, for example most people dont die of cancer but the complications of the underlying disease. Similar to C-19, most people die of the complications of C-19. Death certs or more practical death notification forms are actually quite flexible, you can actually put the overarching illness or complications attributed or specifics. There is space for the Macro and micro, or both. I would suspect it wouldn't be unusual during this to see a cause of death being for example a pneumonia as a complication of suspected covid 19. Should also be referred to the coroner.
The real issue here, is why the delay in testing and finding out, very loose and risky.
They wouldn't assume the person had cancer and stick cancer as cause of death though. Huge difference.
True mate but the cancer patient would have access to testing, it seems like a suspected older person with C-19 doesn't, that is a stark difference.
If you are 99% sure that someone has symptoms of C-19, has deteriorated along that clinical trajectory from their previous baseline and are on full droplet precautions, have developed a Pneumonia, but cant get them tested, you cant stick on a death cert "dont know, couldn't get a test".
It was from the Washington Post like mate, don't know if they are Trump heavy.
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Not wanting to throw further confusion into the mix - but I'm not even sure about the validity of the testing
A colleague of a friend of mine was tested for it and found negative - Then was re-tested a couple of weeks later and even though this also came back negative, was told that 'because he had symptoms' of Coronavirus - they didn't trust the accuracy of the test so they told him to self isolate!
A colleague of a friend of mine was tested for it and found negative - Then was re-tested a couple of weeks later and even though this also came back negative, was told that 'because he had symptoms' of Coronavirus - they didn't trust the accuracy of the test so they told him to self isolate!
Being my whole point.
Test, don't guess.
Only had a quick skim at the numbers but total England an Wales registered deaths per week;
Average weekly deaths this year so far: 12,957
Average weekly deaths over 5 previous years up to now: 11,574
Up until 27th March, the average weekly registered deaths in England and Wales in 2020 was tracking 293 behind the average for the previous 5 years.
So, up until recently - as far as I can tell from ONS - this year, England/Wales actually had a lower number of weekly deaths vs the average. I never would have expected that...
Just saw the edit.
In previous years, that would be attributed to Pneumonia.
I reckon Pneumonia deaths will be down vs average.
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