Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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The first sign of recovery is to admit you have a problem. Hopefully the U.K. has done that today in acknowledging Community and Residential care deaths.

My hope today now that recognition and acknowledgement on has been given is that now the U.K. can start to put in the testing, contact tracing and put national protocols into residential care settings to start giving people a chance.

Im reading posts tonight minimising the loss of life in residential care, the disturbing quote (in my opinion) by a Goverment minister suggesting the inevitability of the virus infecting residential care as an acceptable “ebb and flow” - this is not the case. I’ll explain at a different time as someone who has worked through Flu outbreaks and Covid. Many governments have failed their residential care users and older people generally, we have in Ireland and today the U.K. has acknowledged such. It’s a bitter pill to swallow. But an important one to take.

Tonight should be a sombre one as we count and remember the dead, the traumatic loss of life and honor their legacies and memory. It’s not a night for political point scoring, even if mistakes have been made, acknowledgement can be used to turn the tide of further suffering for the most vulnerable, their families and our communities. We are living through and surrounded by trauma and horror.

Tonight is a night to honor the losses and remember the dead and acknowledge their legacies and memories. Although as a grief theory its outdated, I was reminded reading posts tonight of Elizabeth Kubler Ross’s theory of grief at the core of almost everyone’s posts, Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Deppression and Acceptence. While it’s a simplistic to encapsulate what everyone is feeling, I do believe as a nation the U.K. are grieving tonight and that needs to be honoured and respected.

There will be times ahead to argue about maximising or minimising the horror and trauma, but tonight hopefully represents the worst of days for the UK, but hopefully the turning point were the U.K. gets on top of this for ALL it’s citizens.

From all the Irish on here (I hope the lads don’t mind me saying) in support and solidarity, Ar dheis Dé go raibh a n-anamacha.
 
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Talking to a few paramedic mates and they are basically begging for PPE, apparently those resiliance places just can't cope and haven't been looked after for the last few years. They've also been told to save any communication they get by their unions, the death toll to NHS death could have very big consequences and so it should.

Any health and safety breaches by health trusts, they should be put in the dock.
 
Talking to a few paramedic mates and they are basically begging for PPE, apparently those resiliance places just can't cope and haven't been looked after for the last few years. They've also been told to save any communication they get by their unions, the death toll to NHS staff could have very big consequences and so it should.
What do you mean by this?
 
Talking to a few paramedic mates and they are basically begging for PPE, apparently those resiliance places just can't cope and haven't been looked after for the last few years. They've also been told to save any communication they get by their unions, the death toll to NHS staff could have very big consequences and so it should.

Plenty in my part of Wales and for fact Powys health board are supplying the many private care companies at no cost.
 
In reality, the evidence isn't really that strong, but even a small impact would hopefully reduce the r0 rate even further, when combined with all other measures.

It'll certainly have the most impact if everyone wears one, but even a high percentage of the outgoing public wearing one would have some impact on the r0 rate.

In the long term, I'd probably advocate everyone wearing a mask outside the home alongside washing hands, but there needs to be adequate planning for this.

Will there be enough stock for the population? Will people have to buy them and if so where from or will the government provide them?

Just how do you police it?

I find the Spanish way of fines for people who have been going outside (until now) - some of these may have lost their incomes - absolutely disgusting for example.

I went into the ASDA near me for the first time in about a month yesterday. I've had no reason to go so haven't been. Loads of people wearing masks, but then not following the arrows or staying 2m apart.

God knows.
 
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