Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Those numbers are only from 10th of April to the 24th, that is a massively big number for two weeks in care homes alone, just under 400 a day, horrible. Nothing to be pleased about there. Would bring the effective UK death rate up to 1200 RIP's a day almost over that period.

There were more RIPs in the weeks before and since, its only a small data set. Persoanlly i disagree that when residential care numbers are (eventually added) it will be double, it will be 50%-ish (European average) of total hospital RIP's.

The real UK RIP number is around 30k+ in my opinion. Horrible as that is.

It will be 50 % as the experts are claiming the peak to be 9th April in the UK.
 
The ONS do say there may be an underestimate because of reporting delays Toff ,but as you say still far from what some people were putting out there.

Yep totally appreciate that. I'm sure it'll end up being more. I just meant that I was seeing figures of 20,000 etc. So we have to just hope that it never gets to anywhere near that. Suppose in that sense at least these figures are a good sign that it isn't going to - barring a massive miscalculation
 
From what I've read countries have various different ways of reporting. It's very different to compare countries for various reasons, but especially when we aren't sure if they report under the same parameters.

I just hope we start seeing big reductions in the infection rate and deaths here, and as soon as possible.
Stop excusing the Tory butchery.

We have seen an utter devestation over the past month or so. There is no comparison that can be made that makes these killers look adequate.
 
I agree and have been pushing for this for a number of years. I'm hopeful that one outcome of the pandemic is that people, medics, and officials become accustomed to not only monitoring our health via apps and so on, but quickly learn how to integrate the data generated from these into the medical records of the patient and the workflow of the health staff.

Without the crisis, I fear that the NHS would have stumbled on, year after year, without ever really changing, but we've already seen tremendous change happening in a few weeks when the enormous need overcame the willingness to erect hurdles. At optimistic moments I like to think the NHS will use that as a catalyst to become the preventative service you mention.
It may still. But as you have mentioned, apps that support the management of a healthier lifestyle, largely similar to that of things like FitBit, would be a great help.

To my mind you just extend and redesign the NHS App to have a clinical section and a lifestyle section. One which serves as an everyday support to healthier living and one which links to patient records or medical history.

As with everything though, it takes investment for little immediate return, so it's much easier to tinker with waiting times or throw nursing resource at the issue than it is to focus on reducing flow into the system.
 
If Germany are doing this i expect most other European countries will to....


Where are people supposed to get all these masks from btw.......
 
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