Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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ramacca said:
It will be 50 % as the experts are claiming the peak to be 9th April in the UK.
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You have to trust your experts, personally i find it really difficult to work out the UK, there hasnt been nearly enough testing to work out the truth of current state of play and lock down hasnt been as harsh as other badly effected countries like Italy and Spain.

Yet you have hospital deaths falling, but community and NH deaths not accounted for so can you actually trust the reported figures for modeling. Yet then there is a report of the R0 being less then 1, i find it hard based on above to see that being reliable - but im a bit dubious on R0 anyway.

The narrative is that things are improving, but case numbers have remained the same for weeks now between 4-5k, if that is the case what evidence is there that RIP numbers are going to be different in two weeks time after incubation, im not saying they wont be, its just based on numbers remaining static on infection that the death rate will be lower.

There just seems to be an unreliability, and inaccuracy of what comes out of the Uk to determine anything, well i find it difficult anyway, maybe the government are just holding the cards close to their chest. Im saying all of that with the hope that this Pox is battered by the UK and risk is reduced as soon as it possibly can be.
 
peteblue said:
Where are people supposed to get all these masks from btw.......
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Its in the article mate, local government.

Companies have statreted producing for the domestic market and retailers have started stocking them, they have also put mask vending machines in all public places.

Germany they are actually incredible.
 
Neiler said:
You have to trust your experts, personally i find it really difficult to work out the UK, there hasnt been nearly enough testing to work out the truth of current state of play and lock down hasnt been as harsh as other badly effected countries like Italy and Spain.

Yet you have hospital death falling, but community and NH deaths not accounted for so can you actually trust the reported figures for modeling. Yet then there is a report of the R0 being less then 1, i find it hard based on above to see that being reliable - but im a bit dubious on R0 anyway.

The narrative is that things are improving, but case numbers have remained the same for weeks now between 4-5k, if that is the case what evidence is there that RIP numbers are going to be different in two weeks time after incubation, im not saying they wont be, its just based on numbers remaining static on infection that the death rate will be lower.

There just seems to be an unreliability, and inaccuracy of what comes out of the Uk to determine anything, well i find it difficult anyway, maybe the government are just holding the cards close to their chest. Im saying all of that with the hope that this Pox is battered by the UK and risk is reduced as soon as it possibly can be.
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Case numbers are staying the same despite a significant increase in testing, would imply there is a drop in overall transmission.
 
The ONS figures confirm there are around a 3rd of the number of deaths in hospitals occuring in care homes, and these deaths are not being added to the daily total the Govt are peddling.

Care England the governing body for care homes say it's more like 10,000 deaths and rising and that was their estimate over a week ago.

The ONS data also shows most worryingly, that while hospital deaths are showing to be over the peak and on a slow decline, care home deaths are opposite, they are rising at an alarming rate, stands to reason doesn't it, the group most vulnerable to this virus is recording a rise in deaths.

And remember upto 11 days ago, OAP's who had recovered from Covid were being returned to care homes from hospitals without being tested to see if they still had Covid and could infect the care homes they were returning to, how was that being allowed to happen?, I could put together a very keen argument those returning to care homes were priority number one for testing, above NHS staff.
 
peteblue said:
Where are people supposed to get all these masks from btw.......
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peteblue said:
I don’t go out I’m afraid, thanks......
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if you don’t go out you probably don’t need one .

In all seriousness you can also get them online. Also I’m presuming you either shop online or someone you know does your shopping that or you’d seriously stocked Up for this pandemic so I’d imagine you can get some if you need to .
 
Neiler said:
You have to trust your experts, personally i find it really difficult to work out the UK, there hasnt been nearly enough testing to work out the truth of current state of play and lock down hasnt been as harsh as other badly effected countries like Italy and Spain.

Yet you have hospital death falling, but community and NH deaths not accounted for so can you actually trust the reported figures for modeling. Yet then there is a report of the R0 being less then 1, i find it hard based on above to see that being reliable - but im a bit dubious on R0 anyway.

The narrative is that things are improving, but case numbers have remained the same for weeks now between 4-5k, if that is the case what evidence is there that RIP numbers are going to be different in two weeks time after incubation, im not saying they wont be, its just based on numbers remaining static on infection that the death rate will be lower.

There just seems to be an unreliability, and inaccuracy of what comes out of the Uk to determine anything, well i find it difficult anyway, maybe the government are just holding the cards close to their chest. Im saying all of that with the hope that this Pox is battered by the UK and risk is reduced as soon as it possibly can be.
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There has been a deliberate attempt to massage numbers down. The Hospital v Community v Care Homes distinctions are designed to do that. The failure to provide a figure on recovery rates is an example of that.

If you add that to the manipulation of 'capacity' v take up of testing in the last few days, there's a pattern there that only a complete 'kin imbecile wouldn't pick up on.

These are the same people who spun the Brexit referendum lies; the same people who have punted the sunny uplands vision for a post EU future.

The bottom line is that we've been and continue to be living through a human devastation in the UK the likes of which haven't been seen since the Second World War, and it needen't have been this way. The mistakes were all ideological and political. And they fall at the feet of Johnson and his gang.
 
I just
Harryflashman said:
if you don’t go out you probably don’t need one .

In all seriousness you can also get them online. Also I’m presuming you either shop online or someone you know does your shopping that or you’d seriously stocked Up for this pandemic so I’d imagine you can get some if you need to .
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My wife and daughter do the shopping. I just can’t see anyone in our area that’ll wear these, but we shall see I suppose......
 
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