Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Brisan123]

Slightly eased might be a better way of putting it mate.

I would be very careful who you call mate
You could give him the opinion he has a friend on here

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Interesting. Are you seeing evidence relating mortality from covid with obesity? Or is it lifestyle related?

Dunno tbh. What I've read suggests it's not obesity directly, but people with diabetes, respiratory disease, heart disease and cancer do appear to be far more vulnerable when they catch covid. It's not a clear correlation like, as the graph below shows obesity rates across Europe (for women)

 

[PhilM]

They have, and I hope the staff are properly rewarded after this rather than just the bosses. Our Tesco and Sainsbury’s staff have really been amazing.

With the bumper profits that many of the companies are enjoying, you'd hope that either a short term bonus and/or a long-term pay rise will filter to their staff.

It's remarkable how disciplined they (the floor and distribution staff) have been because in the majority of cases my experience has been very smooth.

But you could say the same for delivery drivers because I know that we've been ordering considerably more stuff, but it's always here on time etc.

Providing the bosses with healthy bonuses, especially when key promotions have been removed so consumers are paying more, wouldn't be good PR.

Have we had any data regarding sickness levels at the big supermarkets and delivery companies because it would be interesting to see how they've been impacted?

 

[chrismpw]

Dunno tbh. What I've read suggests it's not obesity directly, but people with diabetes, respiratory disease, heart disease and cancer do appear to be far more vulnerable when they catch covid. It's not a clear correlation like, as the graph below shows obesity rates across Europe (for women)

It's not an obvious correlation then - not given that italy seems to have less obese women*, but have struggled with covid mortality.

*looks up house prices for italy

 

[GwladysBlue]

I can’t stomach Piers Morgan. All he does is shout over his guests.

He doesn’t care about any of the people suffering, his past history of revolting behaviour proves this.

He says thinks he thinks will make him popular, not things that he believes himself.

 

[PhilM]

I can’t stomach Piers Morgan. All he does is shout over his guests.

He doesn’t care about any of the people suffering, his past history of revolting behaviour proves this.

He says thinks he thinks will make him popular, not things that he believes himself.

While I believe that it's important for the press to ask key questions and hold the government to account, his approach is crass and entirely antagonistic.

He's not looking for answers for the public, but rather simply interrogating in a way that he confuses and cause errors, which he then instantly jumps upon.

How many of his interviewees actually have the time to answer a question before he jumps in, criticises and moves on? It's there to find errors for viewing figures.

His questions are actually quite pertinent and there's definitely failings from the MPs, but it's the way he goes about it and his motive that I dislike.

People want answers about COVID-19 and what the government is planning, but if he's only adding confusion and discord then he's not helping the population.

 

[GwladysBlue]

While I believe that it's important for the press to ask key questions and hold the government to account, his approach is crass and entirely antagonistic.

He's not looking for answers for the public, but rather simply interrogating in a way that he confuses and cause errors, which he then instantly jumps upon.

How many of his interviewees actually have the time to answer a question before he jumps in, criticises and moves on? It's there to find errors for viewing figures.

He’s just had an interview with the Safeguarding Minister, who was on to talk about domestic abuse, he deliberately switched the line of questioning to suit his agenda.

He’s a self-entitled knob who loves the sound of his own voice.

 

[Brisan123]

£60000 life insurance pay outs for NHS and Care Workers who pass from this. Well, their families, but you get the point.

But surely all NH workers are in a state funded DB pension scheme
With this would come a death in service benefit of 2-3 yearly wages
Open to correction but that's the way in Ireland

 

[PhilM]

But surely all NH workers are in a state funded DB pension scheme
With this would come a death in service benefit of 2-3 yearly wages
Open to correction but that's the way in Ireland

If they meet the criteria (minumum service - usually a few months) they should have DiS, but I believe that this is an additional (bonus) gratuity on death.

 

[Brisan123]

Reading serious posts from you always wrecks my head mate.

I keep waiting for the hidden animal porn links

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It's not an obvious correlation then - not given that italy seems to have less obese women*, but have struggled with covid mortality.

*looks up house prices for italy

Aye, it's by no means the only factor, but I suspect it will be increasingly important, not just for now, but after the pandemic. I was reading another paper this morning from City University that explored how the NHS might look after the pandemic. For probably the first time in it's history, care has been rationed, and given the likely demands on the service after the pandemic, whether due to ongoing care of those affected, the backlog of treatments that were postponed, the treatment of those with mental health issues as a result, or just the general demand that the service was struggling to cope with in 'normal' times, it seems inevitable that society will have to do its bit by trying to be as healthy as possible if the NHS is to remain the institution we all love so much.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

While I believe that it's important for the press to ask key questions and hold the government to account, his approach is crass and entirely antagonistic.

He's not looking for answers for the public, but rather simply interrogating in a way that he confuses and cause errors, which he then instantly jumps upon.

How many of his interviewees actually have the time to answer a question before he jumps in, criticises and moves on? It's there to find errors for viewing figures.

His questions are actually quite pertinent and there's definitely failings from the MPs, but it's the way he goes about it and his motive that I dislike.

People want answers about COVID-19 and what the government is planning, but if he's only adding confusion and discord then he's not helping the population.

I've said before, but I've found radio 4 really good during the pandemic, as they've typically had not only a wide range of topics, with experts in those fields discussing them, but the interviewers have typically tried to give the experts the platform and not make it all about them.

This is a period where I feel most people want to feel informed rather than have CAR CRASH interviews to share to their horrified viewers on social media.

 

[Billy Dean]

Went to the supermarket today for the 1st time since the mask rule has been enforced. It kept slipping so I had to keep adjusting it. Must've touched my face about 5 times. Probably not ideal lol

 

[PhilM]

Aye, it's by no means the only factor, but I suspect it will be increasingly important, not just for now, but after the pandemic. I was reading another paper this morning from City University that explored how the NHS might look after the pandemic. For probably the first time in it's history, care has been rationed, and given the likely demands on the service after the pandemic, whether due to ongoing care of those affected, the backlog of treatments that were postponed, the treatment of those with mental health issues as a result, or just the general demand that the service was struggling to cope with in 'normal' times, it seems inevitable that society will have to do its bit by trying to be as healthy as possible if the NHS is to remain the institution we all love so much.

It'll be interesting (if possible) to see if there's been a % increase in people meeting the government's advice on exercise per week, and whether it is sustained.

It appears like there's been a sizeable uptake in people out walking, running and cycling on a daily basis; are people exercising at home too? I know I am more.

Eating habits would also be interesting to analyse as I suspect there'll be people who'll have eaten a lot better (we have) although some will have ate more.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I can’t stomach Piers Morgan. All he does is shout over his guests.

He doesn’t care about any of the people suffering, his past history of revolting behaviour proves this.

He says thinks he thinks will make him popular, not things that he believes himself.

While I believe that it's important for the press to ask key questions and hold the government to account, his approach is crass and entirely antagonistic.

He's not looking for answers for the public, but rather simply interrogating in a way that he confuses and cause errors, which he then instantly jumps upon.

How many of his interviewees actually have the time to answer a question before he jumps in, criticises and moves on? It's there to find errors for viewing figures.

His questions are actually quite pertinent and there's definitely failings from the MPs, but it's the way he goes about it and his motive that I dislike.

There is always the BBC...lol

Not allowing this insidious Government narrative to compare ourselves Italy is good thing.

Piers Morgan has been fired up about recent politics and has looked to challenge the establishment, which contrary to his normal attack lines. He is only the mainstream media that is challenging. There is Channe 4l and Guardian ,however, hardly mainstream.

Its like whack a mole these minister's turning up, I do like how Morgan pulls their media training apart... The sickly smile at key points, absolutely marvellous he pulls them up for it...