Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[YoboCopter]

Dont feel bad for going on a bike ride @BlueToff

Dont even explain yourself

 

[davek]

Cmon Dave, you're an academic. Something peer reviewed would be great

Well, I presume that a scientist isn't making up the findings of others.

Anyway, here's a group of scientists who have produced a discussion paper (link to a PDF file after abstract).

Face Masks Against COVID-19: An Evidence Review

The science around the use of masks by the general public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. Policymakers need guidance on how masks should be used by the general population to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we synthesize the relevant literature to inform multiple areas...

www.preprints.org

 

[BlueToff]

there's a lot of appetite to slate the UK gov and, fairly so, for a lot of things including a shambolic response.

In terms of any country doing well - I don't think there's more than 3-4 cases of it, tbh.

Countries which have had to forcibly shut down entire populations should not be lauded. It reeks of a lack of funding into vaccines against previous epidemics, it reeks of lack of preparation when there was warning ths had been around for a few months etc.

 

[Walken]

there's a lot of appetite to slate the UK gov and, fairly so, for a lot of things including a shambolic response.

In terms of any country doing well - I don't think there's more than 3-4 cases of it, tbh.

Countries which have had to forcibly shut down entire populations should not be lauded. It reeks of a lack of funding into vaccines against previous epidemics, it reeks of lack of preparation when there was warning ths had been around for a few months etc.

This simply isn't true

 

[YoboCopter]

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[BlueToff]

This simply isn't true

Well surely in 2020 there should be a better global response than using a 17th-century technique?

I'm not saying there was any alternative at the time the countries locked down, but look at South Korea - there's one example of a nation which has coped with this well...

 

[Neiler]

On another note, a family friend who has lived in Spain for the last 15 years or so and is/was currently building and looking to open a restaurant.

He's been speaking to my dad and I think he's been in touch with the government over there as they look to all get back on their feet. He got some instructions through yesterday - I guess this is being sent out to businesses which have been impacted by this.

May 12: Small shops, workshops opening etc

May 23: Opening of public parks

May 25: Opening of personal services (believe this means hairdressers etc)

May 26: Opening of the national transit of the population

June 1: Opening of cafes, restaurants and bars (my dad's mate is gonna open his just as a takeaway at first I believe, to see how this goes)

June 6: Opening of study centres - not necessarily students returning to school

June 7: Opening of hotels and tourist accommodation

June 19: Opening of international transit of the population

June 23: Opening for the performance of shows and sports

Whether that works or not, we'll have to wait and see I suppose. Some of that seems early to me - bars back in June etc - but I suppose they're trying all they can to have some form of tourist season if possible. Whether anyone can get there is another matter altogether.

Thanks for posting mate, interesting to look at. I wonder how much of Spain's planning is guided by timing and lifting of restrictions trying to save their summer season and tourism, i would think that is massive for their economy.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Its over now, no ones listening anymore, the fear factor is gone..

Parks chocker, roads busy, Loads of chippies and food places re opening..

Its not lockdown anymore anyway

I mentioned it the other day. I had to whizz out to the supermarket, loads of cars on the road and to get to the supermarket I have to drive through the town centre, loads of people about and there was actually a burger van parked up with people queueing up.

 

[davek]

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Ha Ha Ha.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

This should be a massive concern to all, as highlighted by David King's comments we cannot have a policy maker having influence over these discussions. It is not healthy and is typical of the insidious influence cummings has shown so far

Follow the money... And NHS your data number!?

 

[Neiler]

Looks like we are already preparing for lock down 2.

Coronavirus Ireland: Hospitals warned of second Covid-19 surge in summer

HSE officials are worried that any lifting of the Covid-19 restrictions next week will result in a second surge of the virus, piling pressure on hospitals across the country.

www.independent.ie

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Cant see how they can to be honest but, we do need an exit from lockdown strategy and soon, the economy will not survive much longer without some sort of functioning businesses!

Hancock and Gove supposedly want easing of the lockdown, Boris is worried that if he does then there could be an immediate second wave of the virus that will do more damage to the economy than just keeping the lockdown in place for a few more week after the May 7th review.

 

[Walken]

Well surely in 2020 there should be a better global response than using a 17th-century technique?

I'm not saying there was any alternative at the time the countries locked down, but look at South Korea - there's one example of a nation which has coped with this well...

There is definitely a lot to be learned from the nations (who still implemented travel restrictions and quarantines) who have coped better, though I'm not sure there is a correlation between lockdowns being implemented and investment in previous vaccines.

One thing for certain is that nations who have invested in their healthcare systems and emergency response systems have coped significantly better than those who cut the legs off them.

 

[Neiler]

Well, I presume that a scientist isn't making up the findings of others.

Anyway, here's a group of scientists who have produced a discussion paper (link to a PDF file after abstract).

Face Masks Against COVID-19: An Evidence Review

The science around the use of masks by the general public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. Policymakers need guidance on how masks should be used by the general population to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we synthesize the relevant literature to inform multiple areas...

www.preprints.org

Face masks are key to halting coronavirus and helping us leave lockdown

Remember the phrase, ''Say it don't spray it?'' Well, sadly it doesn't apply to Covid-19. Three important studies have just been published that say everyone should wear a simple cotton facemask when they go out, especially when they go to supermarkets or on public transport.

www.independent.ie

Professor Luke O'Neill FRS is professor of Biochemistry in the School of Biochemistry and Immunology at Trinity College Dublin.

 

[spectateur]

Masks? Difficult to prove but for the past couple of years, during the seasonal winter flu and cold season, our local hospital CH Guéret has required visitors with coughs and colds to wear a mask. These are given out at reception /registration.
They obviously believe that masks reduce airborne virus transmission.