Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Bruce Wayne]

The Institute of Actuaries (of which I am a member) is now producing a weekly analysis of “excess” deaths. So far this year to 13 April there were 25,000 deaths over what would be expected, pretty much all of them since mid-March. This is for England and Wales only - and shows a significantly higher number of deaths than current reports.

There is either a significant under-reporting of Covid-19 deaths (even allowing for those outside of hospitals) or some other big cause of additional deaths in England and Wales in the past month.

You sign up to something that tells you about death, and don't become a forum supporter of the greatest website the world has ever seen? What is the world coming to?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Think plan is to test about half a million people so will be interesting to see if the results change as more data comes in.

 

[LocalNative]

Hancock announcing home test kits. Heard this before - a long time ago.

Besides, they'll absolutely fly off the shelves with the same people panic buying food queuing from all hours for them.

 

[summerisle]

Cuba is not doing to badly either, so

 

[GwladysBlue]

Chequers is only about 10 minutes from me, I'll go that way home after work and demand he show himself.

It’s no use, he won’t be coming out until he can play the hero. A sinking ship of a government with a coward as captain.

 

[BlueToff]

I see it on another forum I frequent as well as on here. Basically tory voters do not like facing the fact that the party that they have voted in are not handling the current situation very well and as such are being held to account.

The best thing they can come up with, bizarrely, is to have a go at Jeremy Corbyn, even though he lost the last election and has no bearing whatsoever on the current political climate.

Rather than accepting it is their choice of government who actually have the responsibility of taking care of the country, the tory voters prefer to deflect criticism away.

But did anyone really expect tory voters to 'own' this mess?

I didn't vote Tory and never have.

But stop with the rhetoric that people who did vote for them are all at fault for this.

If you haven't noticed, the left's tendency to hate and aim to shame has not achieved anything - whether it's in terms of Labour getting in, or Brexit, or whatever else.

Hardly any government in the world - regardless of political leaning - has handled this well.

Doesn't excuse our crap response, not one bit, but fed up of this obsession with blaming Joe Public. It's not worked, for the last 10 years, so stop it and come up with a better argument.

 

[BlueToff]

Perfect Germany...

Is this really right?

20,000 tests (I know, that's an estimation)

 

[summerisle]

 

[BlueToff]

So deaths in hospital 'flattening' again.

At least that's a positive.

 

[BlueToff]

i'd love to be on whatever the people conducting a study into smoking protecting against a respiratory disease are

That is, I'm sorry, effing mental.

If you smoke, and are damaging your lungs, then if this virus really is a respiratory disease, then there is no chance you are in a better shape to fight it off than if you do not smoke.

So, the only other solution is that we're not being told what this virus actually is.

 

[roydo]

A by product of smoking is that nicoteene is also an anti viral thing. When you give up smoking, which I did, you pick up bugs and infections like mad, cos your own immune system has been like a lazy teenager for years.

 

[Neiler]

Coronavirus Ireland: 'Serious concerns' raised about transparency of virus response decision-making

SERIOUS concerns over the transparency of decision making in the coronavirus crisis have been raised by Labour leader Alan Kelly.

www.independent.ie

Ha ha what a load of rubbish, NPHET have brought our R0 no from 4.7 down to .5 since March and the opposition moaning about not seeing the minutes of their meetings. The Indo has really gone down the toilet as a respected objective publication in recent years, utterly inaccurate and needlessly sensationalist headline.

You know you are doing well, when they are cribbing about minutes of meetings during this.

 

[peteblue]

“stubborn” would be a far more appropriate one

OK he’s a stubborn loser....

 

[BlueToff]

A by product of smoking is that nicoteene is also an anti viral thing. When you give up smoking, which I did, you pick up bugs and infections like mad, cos your own immune system has been like a lazy teenager for years.

So it's the nicotine itself which would be the protection?

Reminds me of this

 

[roydo]

So it's the nicotine itself which would be the protection?

Reminds me of this

Pretty much, yeah.

3 months or so after I packed it in, I had all sorts of pretty minor but unpleasant infections. My GP said that nicotine can act as an immune system. Making your natural one lazy.