Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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alvinh said:
The sociopath responses above about about old people and spreading the virus as revenge for the way they voted are despicable. Shame on you.

Just on the subject of South Korea and China 'winning' the battle. Do we all understand that whatever the daily numbers this is not going away? China can put 56 million people under quarantine, South Korea can test 200k people and both those measures can and have helped, but when those conditions are lifted there will be more outbreaks, because it's rapidly becoming endemic. Angela Merkel has just said she expects 70% of the populace to get this.

There's likely little that any one political leader in any one country could do to stop this. If we shut everything down now or if we never shut anything down, the likelihood is that 70% of us will get it too.

There's two things the govt can do, try and delay and smooth out the curve so the NHS isn't completely overwhelmed and try to keep the most vulnerable free from it, which will entail changes to their lives which for most people are simply unsustainable.

Delay is the best we can hope for whilst, we have to hope that everything possible is going on beneath the surface to give the health service the resources they're going to need once this really takes hold.

Also I think cultural changes will have to take place. This focus on hygeine. Making it unacceptable to cough and sneeze in public without using a tissue or one's arm. Not showing up for work if you've clearly got a cold and not getting barracked from your boss if you do. More working from home. More information on how to build a healthy immune system, how to eat well, improve your lifestyle.

Get the message out that now would be a really good time to quit smoking, reduce your vaping habit, cut down on alcohol, make better food choices, get some exercise etc. Anything to make people better capable of fighting this off when it comes, then those people can help the others when they get it and so on.

Particularly worried about friends in the health service. Medical workers in China were vulnerable to this virus due to the amount of exposure, shortage of equipment and fatigue.
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The alarming thing for me is that it seems clear that the way the authorities here believe we get on top of this now is by allowing the virus into the population and for that population to eventually build up immunity to it. That's a very difficult scenario for people in their 70s and 80s to deal with. What happens with them? Devil take the hindmost? Stay indoors and try and live until there's a vaccine?
 
b-rad said:
Of course, but Italy (which has a population density and geographical spread much closer to ours) is 0.2% infected and continuing to rise quickly.

I accept that the infected aren't around every corner, but in the UK the cases are on the increase. Unless these start to trend downwards soon, as they did in China, the numbers can get worse very quickly.

Once we are out of the woods it's a good opportunity to take stock and assess how small-scale it might eventually have been, but while the cases are on the rise here it seems foolish to praise the high numbers of uninfected people.
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I'm sure I read that yesterday there were 1,200 cases in Germany, today the number was 1,700, that just shows how quickly the numbers can rise.
 
Wife & I booked for a holiday to Sri Lanka via Singapore in May.

I don't want to over-react and cancel just yet, we'll give it a few weeks and see what happens in the world, will be really disappointing if we feel like we have to cancel as it's a holiday we've really been looking forward to. Not worried about potentially getting sick, it's more the financial what-if's if things deteriorate and we were quarantined in Sri Lanka, or Singapore, or when we got back home (our travel insurance will only cover for medical costs but not for additional expenses, etc.).

As a back-up we'll change the holiday plans and head over to Aussie (we're in New Zealand), but of course as Kiwis we've been to Australia loads of times.
 
davek said:
The alarming thing for me is that it seems clear that the way the authorities here believe we get on top of this now is by allowing the virus into the population and for that population to eventually build up immunity to it. That's a very difficult scenario for people in their 70s and 80s to deal with. What happens with them? Devil take the hindmost? Stay indoors and try and live until there's a vaccine?
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Don't forget dave, in the meantime wash hands rigorously.
 
davek said:
The alarming thing for me is that it seems clear that the way the authorities here believe we get on top of this now is by allowing the virus into the population and for that population to eventually build up immunity to it. That's a very difficult scenario for people in their 70s and 80s to deal with. What happens with them? Devil take the hindmost? Stay indoors and try and live until there's a vaccine?
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I agree it's alarming. I have loved ones in exactly this position and it's very difficult to know just how many changes they should make to their lives.

I think there's something we have to realise about our globalised world. It's next to impossible to close the borders to a virus. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...hat-the-1918-flu-teaches-us-about-coronavirus

Don't know if you saw this before, but it's worth a read to at least get an idea of what's informing UK response:
www.bloomberg.com

Keep Calm and Wash Your Hands: Britain’s Strategy to Beat Virus

While China quarantined 56 million people and the whole of Italy is on lock down to counter the spread of coronavirus, the U.K. is taking a radically different approach. Instead of keeping people inside their homes, Boris Johnson’s government is trying to get inside their heads.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
 
Italian medical chief dies after contracting virus

The head of the medical association in the northern Italian province of Varese, Roberto Stella, 67, has died of respiratory failure after contracting coronavirus.
He had been practising medicine at an outpatient clinic in Busto Arsizio, north-west of Milan, and Italian reports say he and a colleague were infected at the weekend.
Varese is in the Lombardy region, which has been at the centre of Italy's coronavirus outbreak.

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alvinh said:
The sociopath responses above about about old people and spreading the virus as revenge for the way they voted are despicable. Shame on you.

Just on the subject of South Korea and China 'winning' the battle. Do we all understand that whatever the daily numbers this is not going away? China can put 56 million people under quarantine, South Korea can test 200k people and both those measures can and have helped, but when those conditions are lifted there will be more outbreaks, because it's rapidly becoming endemic. Angela Merkel has just said she expects 70% of the populace to get this.

There's likely little that any one political leader in any one country could do to stop this. If we shut everything down now or if we never shut anything down, the likelihood is that 70% of us will get it too.

There's two things the govt can do, try and delay and smooth out the curve so the NHS isn't completely overwhelmed and try to keep the most vulnerable free from it, which will entail changes to their lives which for most people are simply unsustainable.

Delay is the best we can hope for whilst, we have to hope that everything possible is going on beneath the surface to give the health service the resources they're going to need once this really takes hold.

Also I think cultural changes will have to take place. This focus on hygeine. Making it unacceptable to cough and sneeze in public without using a tissue or one's arm. Not showing up for work if you've clearly got a cold and not getting barracked from your boss if you do. More working from home. More information on how to build a healthy immune system, how to eat well, improve your lifestyle.

Get the message out that now would be a really good time to quit smoking, reduce your vaping habit, cut down on alcohol, make better food choices, get some exercise etc. Anything to make people better capable of fighting this off when it comes, then those people can help the others when they get it and so on.

Particularly worried about friends in the health service. Medical workers in China were vulnerable to this virus due to the amount of exposure, shortage of equipment and fatigue.
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Still lots of people coming in with bugs where I work. Managers don’t seem to be sending them home annoyingly.
 
The binman chronicles said:
Italian medical chief dies after contracting virus

The head of the medical association in the northern Italian province of Varese, Roberto Stella, 67, has died of respiratory failure after contracting coronavirus.
He had been practising medicine at an outpatient clinic in Busto Arsizio, north-west of Milan, and Italian reports say he and a colleague were infected at the weekend.
Varese is in the Lombardy region, which has been at the centre of Italy's coronavirus outbreak.

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Sad that.
 
Billy Dean said:
Still lots of people coming in with bugs where I work. Managers don’t seem to be sending them home annoyingly.
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Suppose if people not been to affected areas or come into contact with someone who has then they have no reason to think its coronavirus. The problem is that they may have come into contact without them or the other person knowing they had it. But people just assume that its a cough cold.

This is why all countries should be locked down at the same time for 3 weeks and then you know who is and isnt affected bit keep it contained.
 
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