Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Jebus_lives]

I'm wondering why Pete thinks the Civil Service say "yes Secretary of State, and do you want me to use the MasterCard?"

I am fine other than that Minister Carlos, hope you are well also

I think it's fairly apparent the Pete doesn't really have a clue about what the civil service is or does.

 

[peteblue]

• Shortage of PPE globally
• Delay in supply chain because of disruption to supply chains
• Wrong specification or a changing specification on what PPE was required by who in what circumstances
• PPE has been ordered it's just too late in the process to have been stockpiled effectively
• There is PPE but not sufficient logistics to get it where it is needed
• It's the Civil Services job to advise and develop government policy - not manage supply chains and procurement

Take your pick from that.

So how many on that list are the fault of the Minister ?, how many are down to the NHS ? How many to PHE ?.....

 

[RAFUH]

@mellowblue The numbers speak for themselves. I was expecting something much bigger, but the data is very surprising. History will look back on this period and judge it to be a massive overreaction.

FFS.

The lower than projected numbers means the measures we took (however delayed and chaotic) to mitigate spread are working not that they weren't needed!

You honestly think if the world had just gone about it's business the numbers would look the same??

 

[LinekersLegs]

@mellowblue The numbers speak for themselves. I was expecting something much bigger, but the data is very surprising. History will look back on this period and judge it to be a massive overreaction.

??? Almost 8000 more deaths in a week than average , even with all the measures taken, seems pretty large tbf

Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics

Provisional counts of the number of deaths registered in England and Wales, including deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19), by age, sex and region, in the latest weeks for which data are available.

www.ons.gov.uk

The provisional number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 10 April 2020 (Week 15) was 18,516; this represents an increase of 2,129 deaths registered compared with the previous week (Week 14), is 7,996 deaths more than the five-year average and is the highest weekly total since Week 1 in 2000.

 

[peteblue]

I think it's fairly apparent the Pete doesn't really have a clue about what the civil service is or does.

I‘ve worked with them on and off over the years. I have a reasonable understanding, only at senior levels though.....

 

[Jebus_lives]

So how many on that list are the fault of the Minister ?, how many are down to the NHS ? How many to PHE ?.....

Well by your logic, the Minister decides then tells everyone to jump and they do/should. So if the decision came too late, then....

 

[peteblue]

Well by your logic, the Minister decides then tells everyone to jump and they do/should. So if the decision came too late, then....

Just answer my question....It’s your list.....

 

[Jebus_lives]

I‘ve worked with them on and off over the years. I have a reasonable understanding, only at senior levels though.....

Haha a dismissal and humble brag in the same post. Well done sir.

 

[Aqui1a]

FFS.

The lower than projected numbers means the measures we took (however delayed and chaotic) to mitigate spread are working not that they weren't needed!

You honestly think if the world had just gone about it's business the numbers would look the same??

That is speculation, you can't possibly know this.

And yes, I think the numbers would be similar to a bad flu, which they aren't even at now. The cold and flu are even outperforming the coronavirus THIS YEAR - 3x higher! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52361519

 

[Jebus_lives]

Just answer my question....It’s your list.....

I thought I had. I was trying to lead a @peteblue shaped horse to water.

 

[Aqui1a]

??? Almost 8000 more deaths in a week than average , even with all the measures taken, seems pretty large tbf

Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics

Provisional counts of the number of deaths registered in England and Wales, including deaths involving the coronavirus (COVID-19), by age, sex and region, in the latest weeks for which data are available.

www.ons.gov.uk

The provisional number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 10 April 2020 (Week 15) was 18,516; this represents an increase of 2,129 deaths registered compared with the previous week (Week 14), is 7,996 deaths more than the five-year average and is the highest weekly total since Week 1 in 2000.

Coronavirus: Deaths at 20-year high but peak may be over

Numbers dying nearly double above what would be expected, but peak may now be over, say experts.

www.bbc.co.uk

But the figures for 2020 also show the impact of flu and pneumonia compared to coronavirus.

The number of deaths from flu and pneumonia - at more than 32,000 - is three times higher than the total number of coronavirus deaths this year.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

I‘ve worked with them on and off over the years. I have a reasonable understanding, only at senior levels though.....

You are a barman are you not?

 

[Jebus_lives]

That is speculation, you can't possibly know this.

And yes, I think the numbers would be similar to a bad flu, which they aren't even at now. The cold and flu are even outperforming the coronavirus THIS YEAR - 3x higher! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52361519

Outperforming

 

[peteblue]

You are a barman are you not?

No mate...

 

[Aqui1a]

Outperforming