BlueStevie35
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Grow up Dave
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Grow up Dave
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
I don’t think you know what you mean. If the argument is that this has been caused by years of underinvestment in the NHS, then the current situation where almost unlimited resources have been thrown at it almost pays heed to it. The answer clearly isn’t just to pour more money in, otherwise we wouldn’t have the death figures we currently have.
The issue we currently have is that our ability to manufacture medical supplies within our own country has been highlighted to be a huge flaw, there’s a PPE shortage because we, along with a vast number of other countries, are reliant on China who can’t supply the demand. It’s all well and good that the money is there to buy stuff, but it’s pretty useless when the stuff isn’t there to be bought.
There’s clearly not been enough lessons learned from previous Pandemics that have happened across the world in previous years and within a global economy that’s poor.
There’s also the issue that we’ve been told for years that the increased rates of obesity was essentially a ticking time bomb for health in this country. With research showing that elevated BMI is a risk factor, the countries failure to address that is also a huge issue. Arguably, advice from authorities on this has been poor for decades and the ‘health food’ industry has spread so much misinformation that it is no surprise that people don’t know what to eat or what constitutes a ‘high’ level of exercise. The growing rates of respiratory disease in the country doesn’t help either.
But I’m sure you meant all that, and weren’t just desperately back tracking after looking like a tit for having a go at a 99 year old.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Vote Labour, come second, then during a major pandemic spend all your time arguing about an internal Labour report about anti semitism......focus on the big issue as always......
It isn’t to protect yourself - it is to stop your own (possibly infected) droplets spreading to others and onto surfaces where other people can pick them up.
And the evidence of S Korea, Germany, Norway, Veneto in Italy etc would suggest you can control the spread to manageable levels without a vaccine with widespread testing and contact tracing that catches someone infected early and isolates them.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Our total is believed and theirs is a laughing stock.....well it would be a laughing stock if their virus wasn’t killing people all over the planet.....
ForeverBlue92
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Surely masks will only be effective in the short term whilst in semi lockdown? once pubs and restaurants etc open back up I would say its unrealistic to imagine most folk wearing masks on a summer weekend and potentially it could be worse with people touching their faces taking it on and off.
I agree on the testing and isolating but by the time the UK Government gets their act together we'll have likely all had it!
NilSatisOptimum
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Don't worry it's been fixed...
Coronavirus: NHS staff advised to reuse PPE ahead of expected weekend shortage
Frontline medics have complained of shortages throughout the COVID-19 epidemic, with some forced to use bin bags instead of gowns.
Pubs and restaurants will indeed be difficult, not least as you say because you will have to take the mask on/off. But cutting down the transmission in other shops, offices and public transit would still count for a lot of the potential vectors for infection.
Agree masks are hot and uncomfortable, particularly in summer, and so public acceptance would be an issue.
But faced with a choice of rolling lockdowns to avoid overwhelming the healthcare system vs wearing a mask in public I think most people would prefer the latter.
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As for the testing
, same here in the US.
NilSatisOptimum
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Paternity leave also coming up...
Once again....link us to the studies to back this up. I would be very interested in reading them.
davek
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That monstor encouraged millions to socialise on the eve of a lockdown knowing how much more infections that would cause.
davek
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No, it's not actually. It far from being believed.
Familiarise yourself with the debate.
davek
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An utter banana republic. "5th largest econmy in the world".Don't worry it's been fixed...
Coronavirus: NHS staff advised to reuse PPE ahead of expected weekend shortage
Frontline medics have complained of shortages throughout the COVID-19 epidemic, with some forced to use bin bags instead of gowns.news.sky.com
Lying scum.
Err ONS themselves have said that the UK official numbers are likely a vast undercount and that is before you get into the timeliness of the reporting, especially over weekends.
Weekly death rate in England and Wales hits record high due to the coronavirus
The Office for National Statistics reported the highest level of deaths in England and Wales since official weekly statistics began 15 years ago.
That’s 50% higher than the 4,093 deaths reported on April 4 by the U.K.’s health department. The ONS didn’t include figures for Scotland and Northern Ireland.
“There is a difference in the numbers as we include all deaths where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate even if only suspected, and we include deaths that happened in hospital and in the community,” the ONS said on Twitter.
In contrast, the official U.K. coronavirus death toll only includes those that occurred in hospitals.
NilSatisOptimum
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Not reported much he won't speak to that prat of a Prime Minister, or his tale of his mother having to pay for the doctor to do some some stitching on him as a child for a deep face cut, as it was before the inception NHS...
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