Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

Seem the same in both Italy and US

Do we have any idea what % of those losses are down to non-Covid19 conditions?

 

[LinekersLegs]

The Germans are now advising it as part of their lockdown easing.

That's good enough for me. I'd rather do what they do than take the advice of this Butcher Government of ours.

California is also advising everyone to wear them when go out.

 

[PITA]

All of the graphs show they are flattening, 3 more weeks and there will be a staggered start back to how things were.

Keep the faith. Your day will come.

 

[PITA]

Can anyone even imagine China or Russia holding one of these daily update and Q&A sessions.......

Has it gotten that bad that we are comparing ourselves with the regimes of those two countries?

 

[davek]

California is also advising everyone to wear them when go out.

Our government is advising "they're of no use....erm, hold on they might be, we'll see what the global evidence says....erm....we've looked and we cant make up our mind....sorry, just hold on a minute we think it might be ok in some circumstances...maybe..."

Useless bunch of spanners.

 

[roydo]

If widespread use of masks in public would reduce the chances of another lockdown how open do you think people in UK would be to it?

Quite a few already wear them. I think that most would prefer that health and care workers had them instead. When I was in ICU, the proper ones the staff used, are single use, so I am unconvinced they are little more than a placebo for the general public.

 

[Big_nev]

What an absolutely useless incompetent shithouse of a man Matt Hancock is. Had the audacity on TV to say "there isn't enough demand for covid-19 tests" like testing should be getting done all over the country not just on people with obvious signs so we can have a good idea of the true transmission rate.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Do we have any idea what % of those losses are down to non-Covid19 conditions?

Haven’t seen any decent data analysis of it unfortunately, you’d think a fair proportion are the heart attack/strokevictims that doctors aren’t seeing turn up in ERs anymore.

Where Have All the Heart Attacks Gone?

Except for treating Covid-19, many hospitals seem to be eerily quiet.

www.nytimes.com

Presumably comparing the increase in at home deaths between those cities with large outbreaks like New York and say San Francisco where things have been controlled might give some clue.

 

[ClausThomsen]

Quite a few already wear them. I think that most would prefer that health and care workers had them instead. When I was in ICU, the proper ones the staff used, are single use, so I am unconvinced they are little more than a placebo for the general public.

Might help in minimising the effects of the mask wearer coughing or sneezing but then so would a handkerchief.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Quite a few already wear them. I think that most would prefer that health and care workers had them instead. When I was in ICU, the proper ones the staff used, are single use, so I am unconvinced they are little more than a placebo for the general public.

Our instructuons here in California are non surgical masks because of that shortfall in PPE. The idea is that they don’t protect you, just stop you from spreading a stray sneeze to all and sundry.

NPR Choice page

That's why wearing a mask even if you don't feel sick can be a good idea.

If you cough or sneeze, the mask can catch those respiratory droplets so they don't land on other people or surfaces. "So it's not going to protect you, but it is going to protect your neighbor," says Dr. Daniel Griffin at Columbia University, an expert on infectious diseases. "If your neighbor is wearing a mask and the same thing happens, they're going to protect you. So masks worn properly have the potential to benefit people."

 

[roydo]

Might help in minimising the effects of the mask wearer coughing or sneezing but then so would a handkerchief.

Quite. I know the Government get stick, but if you follow the distance rule, the wash your hands when you get in rule, the chance of you getting this thing is minimised. A lot.

 

[roydo]

Our instructuons here in California are non surgical masks because of that shortfall in PPE. The idea is that they don’t protect you, just stop you from spreading a stray sneeze to all and sundry.

NPR Choice page

But wearing one gives the impression that you wont get it. A non surgical mask would not prevent droplets from a sneeze getting beyond one anyrate.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[roydo]

I am no expert. But stopping busy streets is surely a better way of preventing a spread?

 

[LinekersLegs]

But wearing one gives the impression that you wont get it. A non surgical mask would not prevent droplets from a sneeze getting beyond one anyrate.

Not every droplet no, but the evidence seems to suggest the reduction is still useful.