Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Sure, they’ll be needing to work out which restrictions they can lift, to ensure the next spread is controlled

Thing is, everyone will be missing sommet. Some not much at all. For me personally, I am more fed up that my lawn mower broke than anything else, but I am not walled into a 2 bed flat with 2 kids, on UC. Them folk will obviously have different priorities than me.

Like, and dont take this in the wrong way, what restriction(s) would you like to see lifted?
 
I think its more about coping with a probably unavoidable spread.
I don’t think it is unavoidable spread though - S Korea is a densely populated place yet are currently keeping their cases down to around 25 per day and for a month have had less than 150 a day despite most businesses being open along with transit.

There are probably some cases they are missing, despite their voluminous testing, but hospitalizations are also trending down so it seems unlikely there is widespread undetected infection.

So it does seem achievable - whether we are prepared to take the same measures is more of the question.
 
Thing is, everyone will be missing sommet. Some not much at all. For me personally, I am more fed up that my lawn mower broke than anything else, but I am not walled into a 2 bed flat with 2 kids, on UC. Them folk will obviously have different priorities than me.

Like, and dont take this in the wrong way, what restriction(s) would you like to see lifted?

I just want footy back, everything else can stay locked down forever for all I care.
 
Thing is, everyone will be missing sommet. Some not much at all. For me personally, I am more fed up that my lawn mower broke than anything else, but I am not walled into a 2 bed flat with 2 kids, on UC. Them folk will obviously have different priorities than me.

Like, and dont take this in the wrong way, what restriction(s) would you like to see lifted?

Not a question of what I want to see lifted. I’m lucky, and can work from home, and can bunker down with wine and a guitar.

If we accept the premise that post-peak a) some restrictions are going to be lifted and b) the virus will begin to spread again, it becomes a question of what the modelling says about what different restrictions being lifted will do to the spread, and what level of spread is manageable / acceptable.
 
I'm starting to think just let everyone out back to normal and see what happens. Getting a bit fed up and freaked out by this new world

If it means the rate of infection slows down, saves lives and gives those working in hospitals, care homes and other places a chance to do their job then I'll gladly take being a bit fed up.
 
I don’t think it is unavoidable spread though - S Korea is a densely populated place yet are currently keeping their cases down to around 25 per day and for a month have had less than 150 a day despite most businesses being open along with transit.

There are probably some cases they are missing, despite their voluminous testing, but hospitalizations are also trending down so it seems unlikely there is widespread undetected infection.

So it does seems achievable - whether we are prepared to take the same measures is more of the question.

Thing is though, and this isnt meant to trivialise this, they are kinda used to this stuff. Its the same reason Sweden can cope with 10 foot of snow every year, but the UK grinds to a halt with a few inches.
 
Then we in the West will just have to learn, humans are amazingly adaptable when we put our minds to it.

Indeed. Over here, in my experience, its all been ok. Everything is slower, everyone seems fine with the fact its hard to "pop" to the shops, and the on line buying has gone nuts. So dealing with it.

So if we relax some rules, and cases inevitably rise, another short lock down would be understood. By sane folk anyrate.

Its like I cant comprehend the levels of preparation and acceptance you have re earthquakes and that. For you, its a fact of life.
 
Did anyone see Newsnight last night? The discussion there regarding the massive amounts of people dying outside of hospital put forward the possibility that the very act of hammering home the message on not burdening the NHS has led to a rise of deaths through people A) being too frightened to go near a hospital when ordinarily they'd have done so when feeling ill because they fear a worse outcome through exposure, and B) that people are reluctant to being seen as a burden on hospitals at this time.

The doctor-statistician was nearly in tears trying to account for the massively unusual non-hospital death rate right now.
 
Indeed. Over here, in my experience, its all been ok. Everything is slower, everyone seems fine with the fact its hard to "pop" to the shops, and the on line buying has gone nuts. So dealing with it.

So if we relax some rules, and cases inevitably rise, another short lock down would be understood. By sane folk anyrate.

Its like I cant comprehend the levels of preparation and acceptance you have re earthquakes and that. For you, its a fact of life.
If widespread use of masks in public would reduce the chances of another lockdown how open do you think people in UK would be to it?
 
Did anyone see Newsnight last night? The discussion there regarding the massive amounts of people dying outside of hospital put forward the possibility that the very act of hammering home the message on not burdening the NHS has led to a rise of deaths through people A) being too frightened to go near a hospital when ordinarily they'd have done so when feeling ill because they fear a worse outcome through exposure, and B) that people are reluctant to being seen as a burden on hospitals at this time.

The doctor-statistician was nearly in tears trying to account for the massively unusual non-hospital death rate right now.
Seem the same in both Italy and US
 
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