Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I'm beginning to get concerned about the UK if i'm honest. If the 50% figure of care home deaths is true and applied to the UK, they join Italy, Spain and USA as the worst effected countries. Thankfully though it seems like the NHS is critically standing up to challenge and not becoming swamped and that is a massive positive (despite the PPE shortage, but that is biting over here now to).

I think overall its impossible to know how the UK are doing, but there are a number of red flags, 1) the correlation between confirmed cases to RIPs after a 14 day incubation period is really bad - it shows poor testing - RIP's after 14 days, showing testing is massively inaccurate or completely under resourced and under done. 2) The reliability of Data of excluding care homes (Why?). 3) The lack of testing - your number of infection detecting is only as good as the number of test you do. 4) The Uk appears to have a higher motility rate then other European counties and that before you recognize the exclusion of care home R.I.P figures and other exclusions.

In an odd way im beginning to be suspicions that, perhaps the herd immunity strategy hasnt really gone away, there just doesnt seem to be a clear infrastructure being set up around testing, contract tracing etc in this critical time of preparation and it is critical, moving forward. Honestly i beginning to think the initial herd immunity strategy is being ghosted into implementation here, with current restrictions to stop the NHS being swamped.

Hopefully though im wrong on all of the above, the UK are our nearest neighbors and we share a common bond, ive lived there myself for a few years,, i want the country to be safe and well.
The death numbers are very worrying. I don't subscribe to the view that they are purposely massaging figures. The policy to include all hospital deaths that tested positive, irrespective of cause of death, coupled with instructions to doctors to put cause of death on certificates of those who died in the community as CV-19 if they showed any symptoms, would suggest the opposite.

That does not explain the inability of the authorities to keep us informed of the combined total CV deaths. They should be able to do this at least on a weekly basis when the ONS figures are produced. Not sure if Scotland and NI report on the same days though. Having separate health services doesn't help reporting
 
No, nor any of the harrowing scenes seen in Italian hospitals. That's not to say the strain on those in our hospitals isn't enormous of course, but hospitals seem to be coping thus far.

I think this will be the true measure of government - in every country.

Spain/Italy etc - was some pretty horrific scenes coming out of their hospitals. Praying we don't see similar here.
 
The death numbers are very worrying. I don't subscribe to the view that they are purposely massaging figures. The policy to include all hospital deaths that tested positive, irrespective of cause of death, coupled with instructions to doctors to put cause of death on certificates of those who died in the community as CV-19 if they showed any symptoms, would suggest the opposite.

That does not explain the inability of the authorities to keep us informed of the combined total CV deaths. They should be able to do this at least on a weekly basis when the ONS figures are produced. Not sure if Scotland and NI report on the same days though. Having separate health services doesn't help reporting
NI has about 5 separate health trusts for a population of 1.9million. Usual reporting issues of different systems/working practices.
 
No, nor any of the harrowing scenes seen in Italian hospitals. That's not to say the strain on those in our hospitals isn't enormous of course, but hospitals seem to be coping thus far.

They seem to be. It’s looking like the ‘nightingale’s’ may now be for when the lock down is removed. Hopefully they won’t be needed at all.....
 
OBR figures not looking good. Maybe somebody (Bruce?) a touch less technically challenged than me could post them in here.

Just forecasts obviously and I do find them to generally veer towards the pessimistic side
 
The death numbers are very worrying. I don't subscribe to the view that they are purposely massaging figures. The policy to include all hospital deaths that tested positive, irrespective of cause of death, coupled with instructions to doctors to put cause of death on certificates of those who died in the community as CV-19 if they showed any symptoms, would suggest the opposite.

That does not explain the inability of the authorities to keep us informed of the combined total CV deaths. They should be able to do this at least on a weekly basis when the ONS figures are produced. Not sure if Scotland and NI report on the same days though. Having separate health services doesn't help reporting

The media and many politicians are not grown up enough to be able to handle the real figures tbh.....
 
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