Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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MarcelsGoat said:
You do realise that people have been paying at least 20% of their earnings already, thats money that SHOULD have been going towards the NHS , what im saying is, do you really want to give the tory rats another 5%?

Basically the 20% people pay in tax isnt being spent on what matters most.
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I agree mate I was thinking in terms of a tax set in stone regardless of who is in government.
 
paultheblue said:
My worry is that the lockdown is basically just a way of buying time so that we have everything in place to deal with the situation but we are no further forward than we were 3 weeks ago.
Make no mistake if the government was told that we could come out of this thing with 25000 deaths and it would all go away they would snatch your hands.
People have been telling us for years that the NHS is on its knees (many of us have seen it at first hand) but the government has chosen to ignore it, the chickens are coming home to roost.
If we come through this and I mean if not when I think that we should all be prepared to pay 5% of our earnings into the NHS because if there is one thing this has shown us that the most important thing we have is our health.
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I don't disagree, but atm NHS is not at capacity. It's a small victory mind but it is what it is. Hopefully, that continues.

But yes, the lockdown in every single nation across the world is a way of buying time. It isn't a solution - there's only one solution and that is a vaccine or general immunity (same thing, really).

On your last point, it'd be nice, but the economic crash which is almost certainly gonna come is gonna require a lot of money to be pumped in and then taxes etc all to go up. More austerity, more cuts.

You can talk about a 5% pay to the NHS and I'm fully behind Nat Insurance going up etc but a lot of people won't have jobs coming out of this.

'The most important thing we have is our health' unfortunately doesn't stand up when western governments have collapsed their economies in the name of protecting health.

Again, not saying there was another option but it's extremely grim and this is going to lead to far more deaths than the virus has worldwide you'd think.

I mean bloody hell, how are Italy going to recover? Spain? They were on the brink as it was, with the EU doing a lot of propping up. Well, Germany and France are going to have their own problems aren't they.
 
paultheblue said:
My worry is that the lockdown is basically just a way of buying time so that we have everything in place to deal with the situation but we are no further forward than we were 3 weeks ago.
Make no mistake if the government was told that we could come out of this thing with 25000 deaths and it would all go away they would snatch your hands.
People have been telling us for years that the NHS is on its knees (many of us have seen it at first hand) but the government has chosen to ignore it, the chickens are coming home to roost.
If we come through this and I mean if not when I think that we should all be prepared to pay 5% of our earnings into the NHS because if there is one thing this has shown us that the most important thing we have is our health.
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So people will stop smoking, drinking, and eating too much? Yeah, right.

The things that are making people vulnerable to this virus are largely in our own hands, but we abuse our bodies and expect the NHS to pick up the tab. If it's on its knees, we're the ones making it so.
 
whiteshadow said:
They have a plan in place and so far the NHS isn't swamped. Every person who's caught the virus has been able to get treated. The government can't do more than make sure the health service isn't overun during a pandemic.

Accepting the ill thought out rantings of a poster on a forum would be much more foolish than to listen to medical experts but hey this is the twitter generation where a ton of conspiracy theorists don't even believe there is a virus, so don't let me stop you going way over the top with your criticism.
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the new phrase in the press is 'hopsitalised deaths' so I doubt that is true, not even all the poor souls fighting the illness can get correct PPE or even get tested
 
paultheblue said:
I agree mate I was thinking in terms of a tax set in stone regardless of who is in government.
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Theres scope to spend lesss money on some things and more money on the NHS, was more my point, but I suppose thats for another day.



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I mean, I'm not surprised and footy isn't really important (I mean, it is for those who rely on it for a living, like - not the high-earners, but casual staff and what not) but overall Italy's response just simply should not be followed here.

For now, yes, but their country is knackered for possibly generations to come. They've done it to save lives and bloody hell it's horrible that they've had to but they're indicating no restaurants / businesses etc open until a vaccine is found. And all they have done is offer loans which need to be paid back.

I simply don't know how that country is going to bounce back socially. It's just devastated it and their measures seem to be getting more draconian.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
So people will stop smoking, drinking, and eating too much? Yeah, right.

The things that are making people vulnerable to this virus are largely in our own hands, but we abuse our bodies and expect the NHS to pick up the tab. If it's on its knees, we're the ones making it so.
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People are just human beings mate surely you are not suggesting that the only people dying are people who have brought it on themselves?
 
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