Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Catfish Blues]

Only 118 people died yesterday everyone - we're well past the curve - hurray!

What are you talking about ?

If you're looking at the NHS England spreadsheet it makes it very clear that deaths in the most recent dates recorded will be updated as further info comes in.

Note: interpretation of the figures should take into account the fact that totals by date of death, particularly for recent prior days, are likely to be updated in future releases. For example as deaths are confirmed as testing positive for Covid-19, as more post-mortem tests are processed and data from them are validated. Any changes are made clear in the daily files.

 

[RAFUH]

Once lockdowns are over - is it basically herd immunity strategy for Europe or are the powers that be going to enforce future lockdowns?

When you see the damage to the economy I cant imagine any further lockdowns after this one.

Even China isnt locking back down and there will still be many cases and deaths over there regardless of what their propaganda says.

Testing, tracing and individualized lock downs to those that are positive and their close contacts.
Without the testing and tracing you may have to have more regional periodic lock downs for hot spots

 

[gianthogweed]

Global health says to achieve control of 90% of outbreaks 80% of contacts need to be traced and isolated this thing is rampant and with a unprepared government who can't even get the logistics right on moving personal protection around the country the window of tracing anyone has long gone
This country will have to bow to the obvious sacrifices will be made a nation cannot be bankrupted the lockdown will be lifted the pandemic will runs its course like the pandemic of 1918/19 eventually people either died or became immune

 

[zzr45]

Portugal, Denmark, New Zealand. 3 democratic governments off the top of my head whose leaders are more popular than ever due to showing leadership and decisive actions. Doubt they will be toppled any time soon

Ardern will be chased out by parents for telling kids to put craft Easter eggs in the window. Countless carpets ruined with paint and children moaning that somebody else’s is better.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

This will happen. I surprised the RS haven’t got them all logo’d up and in their shops......

The 'YNWA' face mask...

 

[BlueToff]

How Ardern has handled three horrid crisis/incidents (Christchurch, White island, COVID-19) shows just what an organised government can do.

Easier in this case with 4 mil people like and being where NZ is but still excellent when you compare it to Europe.

That being said I hope their tourism industry isn't hit too badly by this.

 

[jamieni]

Are they all put in an induced coma when they go on a ventilator.?

I think there is non-invasive and invasive ventilation, but no expert. I think if you have a tube inserted you need to be anaesthetised/heavily sedated?

 

[BlueToff]

717 deaths.

At least it hasn’t gone over 1000..

It was 600 and something wasn't it???

 

[jamieni]

It was 600 and something wasn't it???

Think 717 for the U.K. as a whole?

 

[Billy Dean]

My missus is virtually unable to spend any money at the mo due to the lockdown.

Once it is lifted she’ll do her level best to spend it immediately- hair, nails, clothes and other assorted crap .

If you multiply this across the country, I’m sure there’ll be a massive bounce in certain sectors of the economy.

I'm thinking along those lines too. I'm saving a lot at the moment. Once things are back to normal I'll be planning to make my own contribution to kick starting the economy a bit. Especially in the food and beverage sector

 

[BlueToff]

There seems to be no desire from the media to highlight just how many cases aren't being reported. My missus is a nurse in a care home and she has several residents fallen ill and 4 deaths in the last 7 days. No testing available but if push came to shove she would put a large bet on Covid-19 being the cause of death.

That's one care home. In this town alone I'd put a conservative guess of around 15 care homes at least in the area. Even if we say there are only half the Covid deaths that she suggests that's a very low estimate of 30 that aren't being recorded at the moment. And that's one town....

Add to that the amount of people who are having heart attacks due to the strain the body is under from Covid-19. I've not seen figures for the UK but there are reports coming from New York of a spike in cardiac arrests between 20th March & 5 April - up 400% on the same period last year. Those that die of cardiac arrest aren't counted as Covid-19 deaths either.

The Sky News report made a point of:

- These numbers don't include care homes
- Only hospital deaths
- Expect it to rise due to weekend lull

In the UK, anybody who dies and has tested positive for COVID-19 is being counted as a COVID-19 death. Whether they've died of a heart attack or cancer or COVID itself. If they've tested positive, they are getting included in the numbers.

Stop with the panic, hysteria, please. It's bad enough. Everyone knows the numbers will actually be higher. Like everyone knows millions and millions of people have had this thing with no idea they've had it.

The numbers will come out but for now we know, around about, where we're at.

You think every COVID death in Italy and Spain has been counted for? Every one in Germany, even though their government weren't initially counting anyone who died who had serious underlying conditions?

It's crap. We'll get the data through eventually but for now it's deaths in hospitals. The other deaths need to be registered and recorded; even the figures for days last week were counting deaths from as far back as mid-March.

 

[BlueToff]

Think 717 for the U.K. as a whole?

Ah, I only saw the Sky report, might have just been for England then.

 

[BlueToff]

I'm thinking along those lines too. I'm saving a lot at the moment. Once things are back to normal I'll be planning to make my own contribution to kick starting the economy a bit. Especially in the food and beverage sector

The vast majority of people are still getting paid one way or the other so when it does come back, there'll definitely be a surge you'd think.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Testing, tracing and individualized lock downs to those that are positive and their close contacts.
Without the testing and tracing you may have to have more regional periodic lock downs for hot spots

Would be shocked if the UK does this effectively tbh - my faith in them has diminished in recent weeks over the lack of testing.

 

[BlueToff]

Fingers crossed, that infection rate stays 'flat' over the next week. That means the lockdown measures are starting to work at the same time as they did in most of the European countries.