I have my doubts on the US being able to do this, but it is the safest way to open things back up.
Preferably also continue face masks and some social distancing whenever possible particularly for the more vulnerable groups.
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I have my doubts on the US being able to do this, but it is the safest way to open things back up.
Preferably also continue face masks and some social distancing whenever possible particularly for the more vulnerable groups.
OnlyBlueWillDo
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"Can anyone answer why Beijing, China's political capital, and Shanghai, their economic capital, escaped the virus while 10,000 miles away NY and London, the world's financial Capitals, area being decimated?".
Produced is not the right word here.
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Trump retweets call to fire Fauci amid coronavirus criticism
President Donald Trump fueled more speculation about the future of Dr. Anthony Fauci on Sunday, retweeting a conservative who called for the top infectious disease specialist to be fired after he said in a CNN interview more could have been done to prevent the spread of coronavirus.
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Catfish Blues
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If we actually get to the target of a 100,000 tests per day by the end of the month, then we have a fighting chance of controlling the situation.
That's based on the fact that we're currently doing about 4000 tests a day on people being admitted to hospital at, or about the peak. If the ratio of admitted cases to overall cases is close to the expected 1 in 20, then we'd currently need 80,000 tests a day to test everyone with symptoms.
As new cases drop, then that would hopefully free up tests to deal with known contacts. If Public Health England can swallow their pride and let local authorities help out with the tracing, then it's doable, tight like, but doable.
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Did they?
spectateur
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And just in NHS establishment's.
They lied mate.
This shouldn't just be brushed off. China lied. However strict their lockdown was, there's no chance Shanghai and Beijing weren't affected. Everyone knows that.
China lied. There needs to be massive trade tariffs now. And that means the west stopping using Chinese companies to manufacture so much (which should happen anyway, just from a human rights perspective).
The WHO were - at the start of this - equally as hopeless and did nothing to press China on actual figures. The people at the top should not be there when this is all over.
Just hapless that we're not already at that figure. Why aren't PHE allowing local authorities to help???
Surley the antibodies test is gonna be a big one too. If we can find out who has had it already that's going to be a benefit.
The Penalty Box Dancer
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Is there an antibody test being released? Is this the one boots are going to stock?
Yes we should be able to buy it around 2025.
What role are you expecting Local Authorities to have? I'm not being argumentative here, I'm just curious.
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Very easily report it correctly.
For example the Kenny dagleish story , ran that headline like he was on his deathbed with the virus, which resulted in that story being shared probably thousands of times without many people reading it.
Perhaps by explaining what's going on rather than just focus on headlines?
Because that is so easily done. Rather than report misleading information and provide shock headlines, have the real narrative. They aren't reporting every single case , they are collectively grouping them together into figures and then purposely reporting that information in a way designed to scare people.
This is the same media pulling their news from Facebook posts, just giving pages , Twitter probably in some rare instances. Anything and everything that ties into the narrative that we are all going to die , mentioning the d word over and over and over. .
I've said this before but take a step back. Same as with @LinekersLegs (who I think I said it to a few weeks back). Not everyone is sound minded intelligent people like yourselves. So many people are ignorant to what is really going on. All they get is the D word every single day , every single time they log onto their social network . Even tik tok is flooded with it , amongst the silly dance videos. Most people don't read the information in the right sources , most probably have never heard of those places. I mean I don't read the WHO site or anything like that.
The impact of this is causing significant mental health issues amongst these people. It's not just fear of the here and now neither , this won't go away for a long time. So many people suffering with anxiety alone never mind the rest will have long lasting impact from what they see, what they hear on a daily basis.
And it could all be avoided if the media actually provided clarity. They aren't going to report every single case, but perhaps start by telling people the difference in these cases. Perhaps not pulling information from social media posts and running them as headlines , putting the post (which may or may not be true) back into circulation for more people to see.
It's so easy to write a story informing people that covid-19 was not the cause of death on one of the many stories they run. Even easier not to run that story to begin with. Would the dagleish story have made the news if he wasn't tested? Would anyone have even known he was in hospital? Judging by the hundreds of posts to the story , no.
If the news was reported direct with actual information on a daily basis then this would all be completely different. Go on any tabloid news outlet online right now , see how many stories are in there about people dying after being tested positive , see how many point out it wasn't the cause of death. Because they are the ones being shared all over the internet.
that's the point I'm making about the media. If nothing else, if they didn't hand pick death stories for the sole purpose of striking fear into readers , probably getting that story from a third party source via Facebook. This wouldn't be so bad.
look hard enough and you get the real picture of everything. Except people aren't , they see the headlines and don't bother to read the full article at the best of times. Everything out there is engineered to scare and shock. None of it is designed to inform.
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I guess its a method of breaking a massive number of folk down into more manageable figure. Thinking of my modest town, if the LA got tests or kits or whatever into the GP surgeries, or folk halls, or anything really, and asked them to test the town over 3 weeks, it could be done.
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When we started testing, PHE had enough people to carry out the tracing, but it was a smaller number to trace back then. From what I understand ( which means it's anecdotal, so might be rubbish ), PHE won't have enough staff to do the tracing of tens of thousands of people a day.
Local authorities have people working for them in things like environmental health, who are used to doing contact tracing, so they could be roped in to help, but PHE is a big organisation, and might not be keen on delegating some of that responsibility. Hopefully somebody is already thinking about a plan for this, and also, once we've got a decent antibody test, we'll have a plan to get it going as quickly as possible. Same could be said for a vaccination plan, we need to sort out a plan for that, so we're ready to go when a vaccine's available.
See above mate
See also https://www.cieh.org/public-health-...re-being-overlooked-for-contact-tracing-work/
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