Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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... and I suspect that could well be a failure of government as well .

I'd say it was a failure, possibly with good intentions, but still a failure.

Again, easy in retrospect, but if they'd acted more decisively, and started the lockdown a week earlier, then lives would undoubtebly have been saved, without there being any significant effect on the economy over and above what we're seeing.

Although, to be honest, I was sceptical about how the public would react to a lockdown, and expected far more resistance and disobedience than we've seen, so, even though I now think it would have been better to go straight into lockdown, I can understand why they went for slowly tightening things up
 
Bismark famously said "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America." I wonder if he would say it if he were around today?



He'd probably quip ""God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America."
 
I think even when we do start coming out of this social distancing will still be part and parcel of our lives for a few more months at least. But for the sake of our business's and our minds, we need to get some of our cafes, bars and restaurants operating again, even on a reduced capacity basis. I'm not saying now, but in maybe 4/6 weeks time god willing. Mass gatherings need to be put n the back burner for the foreseeable future.
I think we’ll be seeing some form of social distancing for the foreseeable. My wife is a freelance classical musician and her livelihood has been destroyed by this. I don’t think she’ll be able to play concerts again for a long time, which is the thing she loves doing. It’s scant consolation for her, but being able to visit her family when restrictions are lifted somewhat would be a massive boost for her. Suspect we are weeks away from that though.
 
I'd say it was a failure, possibly with good intentions, but still a failure.

Again, easy in retrospect, but if they'd acted more decisively, and started the lockdown a week earlier, then lives would undoubtebly have been saved, without there being any significant effect on the economy over and above what we're seeing.

Although, to be honest, I was sceptical about how the public would react to a lockdown, and expected far more resistance and disobedience than we've seen, so, even though I now think it would have been better to go straight into lockdown, I can understand why they went for slowly tightening things up

A one week loss to our economy is about £50-£60Bn....it soon adds up...
 
Saw an article on the BBC how face masks will become the norm post COVID-19.

Absolutely no chance in Western Society - lads on tour and girls in Concert Square on a saturday night aint wearing kin face masks lol

They will if Prada, D&G and Armani start making them.

You forget there was girls walking around Town in gold D&G pyjamas and purple Hunter wellies during the day not so long ago ;)
 
Was South Korea badly hit?
Tbf Shevin that was a mistake to include South Korea in that it wasn't 'badly' hit but was nevertheless included in Australia's early travel bans together with badly hit Iran and Korea, perhaps on geographical reasons with it being hit and in South East Asia. I'm sure had it been known how sucessful their counter measures would be they probably wouldn't have been included.
 
The Inhumanity of it all....damn you China...


pete, did you not read the title of the thread being about "serious stuff"?

I dont know what you're game is here - to minimize and make light of this would be my guess on the evidence of most of your postings. I wonder why you'd want to do that?
 
I dont know enough about the risks to have a fully educated opinion, but personally I'd have been very wary of going to something like Cheltenham at that time. With hindsight it obviously looks like the wrong decision for it to go ahead. The large scale events is probably the one where action should have been taken earlier.

I can see events being the very last thing to return to some form of normality. I think people will be cautious in going into large crowds again for some time.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and if we had a crystal ball that worked everything would be a lot better for all of us.

I've shied away from being too critical of the people making the decisions, mainly because it is incredibly difficult when you're dealing with something which is entirely new, and the ramifications of getting it wrong is literally life and death.

But there were three concerns I had at the time when I thought, this doesn't seem right. Common sense says this is wrong.

Firstly, and probably most importantly, I thought that we, and the rest of the west, were far too complacent when details of this started emerging from China. The long incubation period when the virus was most contagious and impossible to detect, even with testing, made it noteworthy, but the hospitalisation and death rates made it unique in modern times. Perhaps we were given a false sense of security by the fact that we came through previous Chinese inspired flu epidemics relatively unscathed. But when we saw how countries previously effected by SARS etc reacted, that should have put us on alert and started to make plans. Those countries closed their borders to China and went into almost simultaneous lockdown without showing much in the way of sign of any contagion. I remember thinking this could be serious.

Secondly, we should have had more control of the flights coming into the country. Anybody coming in from China initially, and later places like Northern Italy and Iran, should have gone into controlled isolation like we did with the Princess Cruise people . Not just asked to self isolate themselves. And all passengers on board all flights should have been handed out questionnaires on which countries they had visited in the previous 2 week. Anybody that had been to a high risk country should have had to go through controlled isolation too.

Thirdly, once we knew that the virus had rooted itself here, we should have stopped large mass gatherings earlier than we did.

Nothing to do with hindsight or expert knowledge, just using common sense.
 
pete, did you not read the title of the thread being about "serious stuff"?

I dont know what you're game is here - to minimize and make light of this would be my guess on the evidence of most of your postings. I wonder why you'd want to do that?

Sorry Dave, did I criticise China....Boris is a murderer......I am not minimising anything, just highlighting one of the costs of this Chinese produced pandemic...
 
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