Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

Think the problem appears to be gaining permission from families.

which is a problem they are specifically responsible for creating - it wasn't done before, and isn't a rule they apply in any other field of statistics that I am aware of

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I can only guess that it's an issue with different hospitals sending their data in

Not sure how every other country seems to be able to manage though

In my experience when someone or other entities start to play about with figures it's normally to hide away their failed responsibility. And exactly why this Government needs to be held accountable as it happens, not wait and deliberate while they make hay muddying the waters.

 

[evilwebby]

not sure that fits with BAME medical staff and doctors in the UK does it ? I mean I totally think your US argument could hold water but I’m probably unconvinced on day doctors over here .

We'd definitely need to see more data to draw anything from it.

Doesn't the NHS deliberate NOT record ethnic data from cases..?

 

[Harryflashman]

We'd definitely need to see more data to draw anything from it.

Doesn't the NHS deliberate NOT record ethnic data from cases..?

well they’re speculating on the ethnicity of staff and then you’ve got the likes of sickle cell so I’d be surprised

 

[Chewbacca]

well in 2016 operation Cygnus was an exercise to prepare For exactly such an eventuality as this and apparently one of the key points was we didn’t have enough PPE and a chronic shortage of ventilators. Basically the finding were the nation and specifically the NHS was unprepared for a pandemic. What did they do about rectifying that ? Fancy guessing .

Did they “get Brexit done”?

 

[summerisle]

 

[Barnfred 55]

Really encouraged by how quiet it is around here this weekend. There actually seem to be less people out and about than last weekend.

London is actually quite nice when there’s nobody around...

They're all down here in Cornwall.









Just kidding

 

[tsubaki]

(edit) she is absolutely vile

 

[COYBL25]

At least some good news :

The city of Shenzen is set to become the first Chinese city to ban the sale of live animals for food and ban the sale of dog and cat meat for consumption.

The ban takes effect on May 1st.

Let`s see whether the rest of China follows suit.

 

[navidson]

Who knows at this point?

Sorry for repeating myself on this particular issue, but this is beyond woeful. All you need to get a daily count of new infections and new deaths in hospitals is one person at each hospital (or one at each trust) to gather the data, one person (or a couple of people) centrally to collate it, an email address to send the returns to and someone to direct what the cut-off time is for the daily figures and how quickly the returns have to be submitted by. It is not rocket science or even brain surgery to do this.

Everything else - age, previous health conditions etc - can be obtained subsequently and published in a slower time frame together with the data from care homes, deaths in the community and so on, and give an accurate picture of what is going on.

I honestly don't know why it isn't being questioned by the media - Especially as the general public are looking at these death figures as some sort of indication of an improving situation

 

[Nymzee]

She's a right nob.

 

[Catfish Blues]

How does that work? Presumably the 'daily death count' for yesterday will also have had deaths that occurred from the 1-9 April if that's how it works?

It's fairly straightforward ...

From https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/ ( I've bolded the important stuff )

All deaths are recorded against the date of death rather than the date the deaths were announced. Interpretation of the figures should take into account the fact that totals by date of death, particularly for most recent days, are likely to be updated in future releases. For example as deaths are confirmed as testing positive for COVID-19, as more post-mortem tests are processed and data from them are validated. Any changes are made clear in the daily files.

These figures will be updated at 2pm each day and include confirmed cases reported at 5pm the previous day. Confirmation of COVID-19 diagnosis, death notification and reporting in central figures can take up to several days and the hospitals providing the data are under significant operational pressure. This means that the totals reported at 5pm on each day may not include all deaths that occurred on that day or on recent prior days.

The spreadsheet for the NHS England deaths is on that site as well, and it's actually easier to see what it means by looking at the raw data.

Obviously this is the internet though, so there'll doubtless be conspiracy theories and accusations of incompetence being bandied about when the explanation is there in black and white for all to see.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Boris and his cabinet have got this under control...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

At least some good news :

The city of Shenzen is set to become the first Chinese city to ban the sale of live animals for food and ban the sale of dog and cat meat for consumption.

The ban takes effect on May 1st.

Let`s see whether the rest of China follows suit.

 

[tsubaki]

She's a right nob.

she retweeted and commented on this today as well:



note: Simon Nixon is chief leader writer of the Times