Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Tipp blue]

You're not familiar with dark data huh? You might find this interesting from an Imperial mathmatician.

Dark Data

A practical guide to making good decisions in a world of missing data

press.princeton.edu

Missing Data.. thanks for that the perfect words to describe this situation. It genuinely would not surprise me if the actual death toll from this is something similar to the seasonal flu.

 

[zzr45]

Their approach is perfectly logical to me.

You limit large gatherings as much as possible while still allowing businesses to trade to some degree for the sake of the economy. If all cafes and restaurants had to close completely it would be a disaster.

So people working in restaurants can’t get ill? One customer can’t pass it on to a waiter/ess who then passes it on to everyone they into contact with? Surely you either go all in or don’t bother?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Missing Data.. thanks for that the perfect words to describe this situation. It genuinely would not surprise me if the actual death toll from this is something similar to the seasonal flu.

You could well make the argument that the only environment we can be totally confident of is the Diamond Princess cruise ship as everyone will have been tested. The death rate among passengers on that was 0.8%, with 4.5% regarded as serious. Granted, the passengers on the ship are quite probably not a representative sample of the overall population, but I would suggest neither are the known cases a representative sample of all those affected by the condition.

 

[zzr45]

You are terrible

Please tell me how the virus turns off during the day to make it safe to eat in restaurants, but becomes more dangerous at night. Thanks.

 

[Tipp blue]

You could well make the argument that the only environment we can be totally confident of is the Diamond Princess cruise ship as everyone will have been tested. The death rate among passengers on that was 0.8%, with 4.5% regarded as serious.

True but you also have to take into account that most of those that go on cruses are older it's kind of a retirement thing to do. So even the .8% could be high when compared to the general population.

 

[neil999]

Please tell me how the virus turns off during the day to make it safe to eat in restaurants, but becomes more dangerous at night. Thanks.

Maybe, just maybe you don't know everything?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

True but you also have to take into account that most of those that go on cruses are older it's kind of a retirement thing to do. So even the .8% could be high when compared to the general population.

Possibly, I have no idea what the demographics of the passengers were, so wouldn't want to jump to conclusions either way, but even the fact that scientists believe under 9s may catch it without showing any symptoms whatsoever would cast doubt on the reliability of stats out in the wild. We obviously know how many people have died from it, and indeed how many are sufficiently serious to require hospitalisation, but we are largely guessing how many people have caught it in some shape or form.

 

[Billy Dean]

I read today that you need 15+ minutes face to face contact with someone to catch it @zzr45

 

[LinekersLegs]

You could well make the argument that the only environment we can be totally confident of is the Diamond Princess cruise ship as everyone will have been tested. The death rate among passengers on that was 0.8%, with 4.5% regarded as serious. Granted, the passengers on the ship are quite probably not a representative sample of the overall population, but I would suggest neither are the known cases a representative sample of all those affected by the condition.

And we’ll only really know even that rate in a couple of months when all passangers and crew are in the clear

Diamond Princess passenger dies, bringing ship's death toll to seven: NHK

A man who had been aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship and was infected with coronavirus has died, bringing the death toll from the ship to seven, Japanese public broadcaster NHK said on Saturday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Rich B]

So people working in restaurants can’t get ill? One customer can’t pass it on to a waiter/ess who then passes it on to everyone they into contact with? Surely you either go all in or don’t bother?

Please tell me how the virus turns off during the day to make it safe to eat in restaurants, but becomes more dangerous at night. Thanks.

You're placing a lot of trust in the owners of the businesses to ensure no spread of contagion via cups, glasses, cutlery, food, drink...

 

[davids]

Meanwhile here in Valencia the game v Atalanta is being played behind closed doors yet the large crowds for Las Fallas congregate as usual. Some real joined up thinking.

 

[orchard]

True but you also have to take into account that most of those that go on cruses are older it's kind of a retirement thing to do. So even the .8% could be high when compared to the general population.

Factor in that something like 25pc of the UK population is ›70 and the possibility of emergency facilities being overwhelmed.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[orchard]

Does anyone know at what temperature this badger's killed please?

 

[davids]

The UK government stated a few days ago that they expect the outbreak to subside in the Summer when the virus is less likely to be a spreadable,bit like standard flu. Singapore whoever is seeing increasing number of cases where oddly the temperature is in the 30s. You couldn't make this up.