Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Diogenes the Cynic]

They are locking the stable door once the horse has bolted.
What I'm saying is that we should be acting now.. not in two weeks.

Oh i see.

I don't think people would accept those measures currently. What you seem to have at the moment is some of the population who are drastically overreacting and the majority of the population who are completely ignoring it.

 

[Toast]

Oh i see.

I don't think people would accept those measures currently. What you seem to have at the moment is some of the population who are drastically overreacting and the majority of the population who are completely ignoring it.

My shop at 4pm today had daily sales of £140k.
(That's Xmas money to put into context.)

The worry is clearly there for the UK public and I'm suggesting most are not trusting the government advice.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

My shop at 4pm today had daily sales of £140k.
(That's Xmas money to put into context.)

The worry is clearly there for the UK public and I'm suggesting most are not trusting the government advice.

I don't blame them to be fair.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

My shop at 4pm today had daily sales of £140k.
(That's Xmas money to put into context.)

The worry is clearly there for the UK public and I'm suggesting most are not trusting the government advice.

Well we've got some awful toadies in government and opposition at the moment, they'd pull up the drawbridge first chance they got.

I think this will be got through eventually but the trouble is i expect poor concordance with infection control and with no real trust in government information it can lead to mass panic, riots and further infection spreading.

 

[summerisle]

lol

 

[Wolf8312]

By the way guys this guy and his channel are a great source of scientific information about the virus. Looks like some good news too, if you look at the death rate in Korea. Basically they have tested thousands of people over there, and therefore found more cases.

So the denominator has expanded but the overall the death rate has decreased. They say it's at about 0.6 percent! The province I live in, in China as well had 1 death out of 246 people with a death rate of about 0.4. Most provinces outside Hubei also have similar numbers, nothing close to 2 or 3 percent, but unlike Hubei their healthcare systems were probably not overwhelmed...

So it's highly infectious but probably not as dangerous as some fear, although this is probably no time to get complacent! Real danger still probably remains overwhelmed healthcare facilities, and panic...

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Wolf8312]

Brought me crashing back down to earth...

 

[Tin-Tin]

This seems quite a high percentage compared to other countries

 

[Tin-Tin]

Do we know why Italy has become some sort of infectious hub compared to other European countries?

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

This seems quite a high percentage compared to other countries

Countries such as Iran are also going to experience more casualties because all their best doctors are in UK. USA or other wealthy developed nations.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Do we know why Italy has become some sort of infectious hub compared to other European countries?

I'm just going to say it, Italian government and and services are incredibly badly organised and if you were going to predict where that would happen out of say... UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain... I would have said Italy every time. Spain following behind.

 

[Tin-Tin]

Countries such as Iran are also going to experience more casualties because all their best doctors are in UK. USA or other wealthy developed nations.

May not have the level of facilities that Europe and other places do.

Makes you wonder what will happen in the really poor parts of the world when it eventually gets there, like India, Africa etc. The rich will probably be ok but god knows what will happen to the rest of the poor

 

[Tin-Tin]

I'm just going to say it, Italian government and and services are incredibly badly organised and if you were going to predict where that would happen out of say... UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain... I would have said Italy every time. Spain following behind.

Cant just be that though. This is from a researcher in Italy's department of infectious diseases. So looks like they mass tested and seen the numbers grow. Wonder if we done that would our numbers spike?

Unfortunately, this virus came exactly at the same time when we had our influenza seasonal peak. And we knew that this could mask some of the early importations of COVID-19 because the symptoms are very similar.

So what happened is that we tested a patient that was critically ill that didn't have a direct link to travel or to known cases, and we found this person positive. And this, of course, led to an extensive tracing to try to understand what was going on. And this is why we tested a lot of people. And we found out early on that we had local sustained transmission. And then from there on, everything was activated very fast.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Do we know why Italy has become some sort of infectious hub compared to other European countries?

There are probably a few reasons we’ll find out in hindsight that contributed but tbh I wouldn’t rule out sheer bad luck.

South Korea seems to have generally handled things well (lots of testing, tracking of contacts, public information, high number of hospital beds per population, quarantines and shutdowns) yet just one case in a mega church accounts for a huge % of their cases.