Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Number_25]

It spreads via coughing doesn't it? What does washing hands do? A virus expert from Aberdeen Uni said as much on radio 4 earlier. Pretty much a waste of time, hence why he's still happy to shake hands etc.

Do you not cough into your hand like everyone else?

https://www.ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-6553(14)00659-2/abstract

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Do you not cough into your hand like everyone else?

https://www.ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-6553(14)00659-2/abstract

I'm young(ish) so tend to just cough in the face of the nearest elderly person.

 

[Wolf8312]

I hope you're aware that there's an entire generation of Chinese people who believe that the Tienanmen Square massacre didn't happen - and if it did it was a result of NATO/US involvement.

The issue was whether, or not the numbers coming from China have been fabricated or not, and I put forward some reasons as to why I think that isn't the case.

Actually many people in China believe that the virus itself came from the US, and their media (just like the US media) no doubt does its best to propagate this idea, as it deflects blame from those responsible, and onto the foreign enemy. Works both ways...

But all that has nothing to do with what I was writing, except to say I find it irritating to listen to either side, who constantly declare something is a fact, when it is actually just nonsense they have opined from underlying prejudices/propaganda, and telephone games on social media.

 

[Billy Dean]

Nassive amounts of disinfectant stolen from a Berlin hospital from leukaemia sufferers. Nothing like a crisis to reveal people’s true colours

 

[wm02]

Sometimes i like to pretend I'm blind and touch people's faces and say this is how i see people.

Like the girl in the Lionel Richie "Hello" video.

You always think something like this will affect someone else.

Not surprising.
I can see it in your eyes.
I can see it in your smile

 

[Martin Alvito]

The issue was whether, or not the numbers coming from China have been fabricated or not, and I put forward some reasons as to why I think that isn't the case.

Actually many people in China believe that the virus itself came from the US, and their media (just like the US media) no doubt does its best to propagate this idea, as it deflects blame from those responsible, and onto the foreign enemy. Works both ways...

But all that has nothing to do with what I was writing, except to say I find it irritating to listen to either side, who constantly declare something is a fact, when it is actually just nonsense they have opined from underlying prejudices/propaganda, and telephone games on social media.

You can easily make an argument that the Chinese haven't been 100% on the level based on facts. Switching the tallying method twice is sketchy. I tend to think that was for internal political purposes, rather than to deceive the world outside. Recognizing the scope of the problem in the face of inadequate testing made it look like they were having greater success combatting it when they switched back to a tally based on testing they knew to still be inadequate.

Their elevated fatality rate also matches up with other places (early Iran count, US) that we have ample reason to believe are/were lowballing on their infected counts. Where testing has been good (SK, Diamond Princess), the mortality rate has been much, much lower. It makes me wonder just how bad it really is in Italy.

I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment that it's hard to find a substantive discussion on that level, though. In principle, the good is supposed to drive out the bad in the marketplace of ideas. In practice, it seems to take a long time, if it indeed ever occurs. One wonders what Goebbels would have thought about social media.

 

[verreauxi]

lol

People are sick and dying, flights are grounded, gatherings are canceled, and the first thing that comes to mind is "I really need to make sure I can soft-wipe my touch-hole when shiz gets real!"

 

[verreauxi]

We all tend to focus on the numbers but this is heartbreaking on the human side

Dear god, that is sad.

 

[verreauxi]

Trump:

On a tour of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, he told reporters: “I like this stuff. I really get it."

Mr Trump said he had had a “great, super-genius uncle” who taught at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

“People are really surprised I understand this stuff. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

Such a thick narcissist; if he, and the rest of humanity, was being slowly devoured flesh-eating aliens, he would probably hold a press conference about how he tastes so good that these flesh-eating aliens can't get enough of him.

 

[Toast]

Nassive amounts of disinfectant stolen from a Berlin hospital from leukaemia sufferers. Nothing like a crisis to reveal people’s true colours

My father in law is going through treatment for leukaemia at the moment. He's doing well.
Absolutely bang in trouble if he catches this though, normal flu would be bad enough.
Yet he's just going about his normal life and not just staying in the house like I would be..

 

[verreauxi]

It spreads via coughing doesn't it? What does washing hands do? A virus expert from Aberdeen Uni said as much on radio 4 earlier. Pretty much a waste of time, hence why he's still happy to shake hands etc.

Soap is a surfactant, so it simply increases the slipperyness of your skin and allows you to wash more virions down the drain. I suspect what he's getting at is that it only takes one virion particle to cause infection, so the chances that you can remove all of them during handwashing is nil. But with handwashing you might remove the ones in places that you use to touch your nose/mouth with (e.g., fingertips), thereby leading to infection. I would stick to handwashing as a tried-and-true method to prevent the spread of microbes (bacteria and viruses and fungi).

 

[Billy Dean]

Soap is a surfactant, so it simply increases the slipperyness of your skin and allows you to wash more virions down the drain. I suspect what he's getting at is that it only takes one virion particle to cause infection, so the chances that you can remove all of them during handwashing is nil. But with handwashing you might remove the ones in places that you use to touch your nose/mouth with (e.g., fingertips), thereby leading to infection. I would stick to handwashing as a tried-and-true method to prevent the spread of microbes (bacteria and viruses and fungi).

i've washed my hands so much they've gone red and dry

 

[cooperman]

i've washed my hands so much they've gone red and dry

Buy a decent hand cream.

They'll be the next thing to be cleared off the shelves.

Dry cracked skin is another entry point for pathogens

 

[LinekersLegs]

Buy a decent hand cream.

They'll be the next thing to be cleared off the shelves.

Dry cracked skin is another entry point for pathogens

Preferably a really smelly one, I’ve found it helps remind me when I’m raising my hands to touch my face.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Best thing people can do is take basic hygiene precautions such as hand washing and to eat right and sleep right so you immune system is in the best condition possible.