CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[Ihaters]

Genuinely confused by this post.

Sarcastic response, sorry mate, if it helps I am in complete agreement with your post.

 

[nigelcoyb]

Plenty of managers waste money though. Even if the manager didn't 'waste' money i think we'd struggle to find one who can buy as many bargain players as Moyes has.

Moyes shops in the biggest market of them all ie not quite good enough for the top.

He's had the advantage of time to peruse, scout, check, double check before making a decision Arteta, Lescott and Pienaar are the only ones to date deemed worthy of poaching one is hardly pulling up trees in the worst Arsenal in Wenger's era the other 2 became squad players both wanting to return to Butlins, which Pienaar managed.

 

[kenada_blue]

I don't understand why people keep throwing this line out.

Moyes' performance in the transfer market has allowed us to survive and maintain a top 8 finish on a shoestring budget. Nobody is bigger than the club, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't be rightly concerned about the future of the club if Moyes leaves.

We could feasibly get a manager in who has to sell Felli and then replaces him with a Charlie Adam or Joe Allen level player, like Dalglish and Rodgers bought.

And that's why I said before about a new manager being a massive gamble.

It's not just a results based job, it's almost a business management job where each purchase hasn't be right.

On the flip side, there's nothing the board can do to give him what he wants without shooting themselves in the foot. Yes, the new TV money could help, but you'd think they would already have a plan in advance on how they're running the club down the line. That TV money is more or less spent

 

[noharmdone]

hhmmm have i missed something??? What did he say

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21473409

 

[PhilEFC]

Are you honestly saying the reason we haven't won anything is because the "Sky generation" believe the "bollocks" that Everton are "punching above their weight"?

In Moyes' time in charge the only clubs to have won the title have spent roughly £1b extra each than Everton (£100m per club extra over 10 years).

Either it is a massive coincidence that the only clubs who win stuff are those that spend literally hundreds of millions of pounds or there might just be a link.

People say Everton are punching above our financial weight because we are. As will become abundantly clear if the next manager only performs averagely.

No, I don't think you understand what I meant.

It suits the board and Moyes to spin this punching above their weight line because of the lack of investment by the board themselves, or failure to find any investment. There is no proof that they have tried to advance the club financially, and Moyes has never really questioned that, because his situation is very comfortable.

Of course the teams who have spent billions will win the league, but that's not what I was getting at.

My reference to the Sky generation is that most new/younger fans don't think football existed before the Sky gravy train came along.

 

[BoysInBlue]

hhmmm have i missed something??? What did he say

He was asked about it in the Oldham pre-match press conference today, mainly because we've all been talking about it all week.

 

[Allezfan]

Three non-promoted teams were relegated last season ?

Yeah and Hughes' QPR, Martinez' Villa and McLeish's Villa stayed up. It doesn't require the next Mourinho to do it.

I mean out performing the likes of blackpool and reading who are running with a wage bill a quarter of our size just requires not being completly awful.

The risk of getting the wrong manager is massively overstated.

 

[Groucho]

First and foremost, no-one is bigger than the club. No-one.

But I do think we're better off with him than without. Having said that, only he can decide if he's to stay or not so I'm looking at it like this - if he stays, great. If not, see my first sentence.

 

[Ihaters]

Again, unless he's "had enough", nothing has changed since he came to the club in how it's ran.

He's backed the board for 10 years. Then all of a sudden he's reviewing how the team he's built for years at the end of the year and has put an ultimatum to the board for funds?

Bad smoke screen for his own back pocket or he's off.

Well all know he would've jumped to Spurs in the summer if he got asked. He didn't so he's probably fishing.

Lot of guessing and assumptions there.

 

[Brennan]

Yeah and Hughes' QPR, Martinez' Villa and McLeish's Villa stayed up. It doesn't require the next Mourinho to do it.

I mean out performing the likes of blackpool and reading who are running with a wage bill a quarter of our size just requires not being completly awful.

The risk of getting the wrong manager is massively overstated.

Direct relegation isn't the only worry.

We get a new manager in and sell Fellaini, then he replaces Fellaini with a couple of crap players. We finish 10th instead of 7th and lose about £6m (new tv payments) in the process. Distin is 35 years old and Neville is 36, both need replacing but we've just lost £6m compared to what we'd expected.

Hibbert, Distin, Neville, Osman, Pienaar, Howard. None of them are getting younger and all will need replacing within the next 2-3 years. Yet we have no money.

Finishing a few league places lower wouldn't be a big deal for a club which is backed financially, we're not backed financially.

 

[TheFinnFan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21473409

ok, so nothing new there basically.
Looks like he is just waiting and seeing if it is worth while to be with everton next season.
*not digging this no no no.
**if this season doesnt bring the goods hes off 100%

 

[nigelcoyb]

Lot of guessing and assumptions there.

Which Moyes could nail if he wanted to do but is he arsed? noooo

 

[BoysInBlue]

No, I don't think you understand what I meant.

It suits the board and Moyes to spin this punching above their weight line because of the lack of investment by the board themselves, or failure to find any investment. There is no proof that they have tried to advance the club financially, and Moyes has never really questioned that, because his situation is very comfortable.

Of course the teams who have spent billions will win the league, but that's not what I was getting at.

My reference to the Sky generation is that most fans don't think football existed before the Sky gravy train came along.

Spot on.

What a lot of people forget is that Everton were one of the key 5 clubs that broke away from the Football League and created the Premier League in the first place. It wasn't your Citys or your Chelseas back then. It was us, Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs. We were a key player as we entered the early 1990s; we'd even won more league titles than Man Utd at that point.

It really is only the last 20 years when things have changed, which when you consider we've existed for 135 years, doesn't really make for a true reflection of our standing in history.

I really resent the constant 'punching above our weight' and 'you shouldn't be expecting to win stuff' and 'we're only Everton after all' patronising marginalisation that goes on.

 

[noharmdone]

ok, so nothing new there basically.
Looks like he is just waiting and seeing if it is worth while to be with everton next season.
*not digging this no no no.
**if this season doesnt bring the goods hes off 100%

What if Baines came out with that ? We would be fuming.
I'm actually annoyed with him for the timing.

 

[Brennan]

Which Moyes could nail if he wanted to do but is he arsed? noooo

How dare he wait to see how the team does before committing himself for another few years.