CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[Seamus Colemole]

Is it me, or is it weird how little that seems to matter to some?

Depends in what way you think it should matter.

 

[nigelcoyb]

How dare he wait to see how the team does before committing himself for another few years.

Well said he's not an evertonian he's only here for his own interests - spot on.

 

[Brennan]

950 odd posts on nothing.

The majority of threads are posts on 'nothing'. Should we all just stop posting ?

 

[By god I'm blue]

I would hope when he goes he goes with everyone's best wishes

 

[Ihaters]

Oh right, sorry lar, haven't read all the posts so didn't know your stance.

Kin ell the more this sinks in the more I'm gutted. Especially having seen great Everton teams of the past disintegrate due to a change of management. History would suggest that we might actually be OK in the short-term, but over a season or 2 the team would break up as the new man seeks to bring in his own players. Dreading seeing how Mr X manages to do this with no money.

No-one is bigger than the club - true. But look down the East Lancs Road to see the influence and benefit just ONE PERSON can bring to a football club, bringing them from a value of about £10m to a multi-BILLION pound business. Do not underestimate the importance of Mr D Moyes to Everton Football Club.


@N

Not many do better without funds and to be honest whilst this club is in the hands of the board, I cannot think of a more important trait.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Yeah, the reaction would definitely be worse if it was a player, although i think some of that is related to what he's done for us the past ten years. Whether people like him or not i'd hope every Evertonian could see the stability he brought when we were facing relegation regularly.

I probably have a rep for moaning about him on here but it doesn't mean i don't value him for everything he's done.

 

[nigelcoyb]

mental

But unassailable.

 

[electricblue]

I agree, but i'm just thinking back to the reactions to players like Pienaar who ran his down, and Fellaini when he re-signed allowing us to get a bigger fee if he's sold.

If it was a player doing this i get the feeling more people would be critical of him for it, if he leaves and goes into another job he's doing a cash strapped club out of compo.

But thats his right as there's always the risk no one wants to pay us off for him and he gets stuck here.

Don't think you can compare this to a player's position mate. It's totally different in that a player knows how short his career is likely to be so he can't afford to hang about when he could be moving upwards. A manager's career isn't constrained by such time limits and realistically should be given time at a club to build his own team, which Moyes has. I can't imagine a situation where a manager signs a new contract in the knowledge that he is only doing it so that the the club get compensation when he leaves. Now that really WOULD piss people off and give them an easy excuse to have a go at him.

 

[Ihaters]

But unassailable.

Your basically saying that he's not very good in the transfer market and that his buys are not that impressive or am I wrong?

 

[MartSlinger]

I probably have a rep for moaning about him on here but it doesn't mean i don't value him for everything he's done.

Fair play. Others dont though, which annoys me. A lot seem to discount all the good he has done simply because he hasnt won a trophy.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Don't think you can compare this to a player's position mate. It's totally different in that a player knows how short his career is likely to be so he can't afford to hang about when he could be moving upwards. A manager's career isn't constrained by such time limits and realistically should be given time at a club to build his own team, which Moyes has. I can't imagine a situation where a manager signs a new contract in the knowledge that he is only doing it so that the the club get compensation when he leaves. Now that really WOULD piss people off and give them an easy excuse to have a go at him.

Are there many other managers who have ran down their contract with a Prem club? It seems like its pretty unusual.

 

[electricblue]

Are there many other managers who have ran down their contract with a Prem club? It seems like its pretty unusual.

Probably not as most would jump at the chance of a new contract, thus guaranteeing them financially.

Whereas Moyes is stalling on a reported £4m p.a. Think about it. He could be saving the club a fortune if things don't pan out. Swings and roundabouts.

 

[nigelcoyb]

Your basically saying that he's not very good in the transfer market and that his buys are not that impressive or am I wrong?

I'm saying he's done what you'd expect anyone to do given 10 years unfettered control with no pressure - not like he's uncovered a Michu is it?

If you check the number of transactions in his time it's like a who's who of shelf stackers - more scatter gun than snipers cross hairs if you ignore the press and check the facts.

 

[noharmdone]

I'm saying he's done what you'd expect anyone to do given 10 years unfettered control with no pressure - not like he's uncovered a Michu is it?

If you check the number of transactions in his time it's like a who's who of shelf stackers - more scatter gun than snipers cross hairs if you ignore the press and check the facts.

* ducks for cover *

 

[Brennan]

I'm saying he's done what you'd expect anyone to do given 10 years unfettered control with no pressure - not like he's uncovered a Michu is it?

If you check the number of transactions in his time it's like a who's who of shelf stackers - more scatter gun than snipers cross hairs if you ignore the press and check the facts.

You're talking utter tripe.