CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here
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it doesn't have to affect the team or a player mentally but why listen to someone shouting you when they aren't even going to be around? tuning out a manager is a real concern.
Yet we've scored 9 more goals (and conceded 16 fewer) in that period so is it the case that margin of victory indicates an attacking mindset?
I'm not trying to be annoying - I genuinely think it is an interesting fact - but perhaps it shows that being cautious when winning 1-0 is a better tactic for accumulating points than pushing for goals 2 and 3.
I have Moyes down as an arch pragmatist rather than a "romantic" manager. He'll have examined all the stats and be sure that his approach is correct. The fact that nobody finishes above him without massive additional expenditure, to me, shows he is doing something right.
Ill go against popular opinion here, David Moyes is very awsome.
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tim cahill
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He get's more right than he does wrong, but his inability to get the players up for the big games is a concern. Dalglish seemed to be the opposite, he got so much wrong, yet he got his players up for the games that mattered.
But the teams we have played against in the big matches have better players. Moyes is generally good at getting decent players to play well together consistently.
Someone like Dalglish was unable to set up a team to pick up points regularly but when there was a big game the likes of Suarez and Carroll were up for it and they would win.
We are perfectly capable of winning matches against Chelsea in the league (and have quite a good record home and away in recent years) but when it comes to FA cup final day then the likes of Drogba are as up for the match as we are. And when Drogba/Lampard etc are in the mood they are better than our players.
evertony
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I'm keen for Moyes and Fellaini to stay....they are 'real' parts of the current set up and were fundamental in the great football we were playing earlier in the season.
January's lethargy in the window was the great mistake - 4th in the League, playing great and well above the ****e. A couple of loans and two or even one signing and we'd have been given every chance of that coveted 4th spot. CL qualification and a raft of new money from Sky would have set us up just nicely. Those who 'control' the business and financial operations at the great Club are the ones who should be rolled. Incompetent, ignorant and irresponsible.
January's lethargy in the window was the great mistake - 4th in the League, playing great and well above the ****e. A couple of loans and two or even one signing and we'd have been given every chance of that coveted 4th spot. CL qualification and a raft of new money from Sky would have set us up just nicely. Those who 'control' the business and financial operations at the great Club are the ones who should be rolled. Incompetent, ignorant and irresponsible.
Little Ralphy
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Wigan? Really?
Brownie
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I agree, Moyes has said himself that he thinks 2-0 is the perfect scoreline. He likes efficiency and you could make an argument that doing enough to win and then seeing the game out is a good approach. However I also think you could make an argument that were we more inclined to keep attacking and go for a larger margin of victory, we might have won some of the games we've ended up drawing or losing. It makes sense to me to have a mixture. If you're having a good day against a poor team, there's no reason why you shouldn't turn a two goal lead into three or four. By the same token if it's a tight game and you sneak a lead, naturally you want to be a bit more defensive and hold onto it.
My basic point is I think we could have done even better than we have done over the years had there been more big-margin wins, because I think some of them would have come in addition to the small ones, rather than instead of them.
And I woulod include Liverpool in the semi last year.
We had a better squad than them, assembled at a fraction of the cost I might add, yet we contrived to lose that as well.
Don't forget the likes of Reading, Oldham, Shrewsbury, Leeds, and many of the teams in the bottom half of the table in the league. There are others, I just can't be bothered to list them. Moyes out.
People arguing moyes negatives and positives you've probably nailed it there mate for me , if he'd signed a new deal I honestly think there would be nowhere near this negativity . Problems when your all in it together are one thing but when one of you in half in and half our the door it's a whole different entity . Of all the mistakes moyes has made & all managers make them for me this is by far the biggest .
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