Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
That's his to keep as well. Because Davie deserves it.
CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here
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That's his to keep as well. Because Davie deserves it.
orchard
Player Valuation: £60m
Yes he does. Top ten for ten years (or something) lid. Let him melt down our silverware to make a throne or something...
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
Yes he does. Top ten for ten years (or something) lid. Let him melt down our silverware to make a throne or something...
Hahaha. All those 7th place trophies.
Let's give him a nice parting gift too. Let him take any of our players to his next team for free, as long as it isn't Hibbert.
He deserves it.
It's bizarre if you believe his tripe about just wanting to challenge the top four. What he meant was he wants a job at a club with more money and higher profile. He's been tapped up, and they've said we're interested so don't sign any new contracts
CahillsCornerFlag
Player Valuation: £70m
For the first time in eleven years I want Moyes out. Even last year, when he was asked on the BBC about the Spurs job and blatantly showed his hand (embarrassing Everton, I thought), I wanted him to stay. Even during the last contract negotiations, when a team he built on notions of unity and ‘siege mentality’ was buckling due to the fact he was holding out, I wanted him to stay.
I was born in 87, so have zero recollection of Everton has a great team. The team I began supporting was one battling against relegation – with the brief reprieve of Joe Royle – every season. It was a decade of clinging on to single moments of elation (primarily Duncan Ferguson inspired) and more often fighting through torpor-inducing Saturday afternoons. Moyes changed that. While I can understand older fans scoffing at ‘seventh place trophies’ and even not quite being sated by successive fifth places, for most people who missed the great pre-90s teams it was a joy to support a team playing decent football and generally going about things the right way (the narrative that we were ‘punching above our weight’ was actually an incredibly compelling one that gave, and continues to give, Moyes and the board an enormous amount of time and concession). So, throughout the post-09 dip, the conservatism, the opportunism, and the worrying propensity he had to let his sullen mood pollute the dressing room, I wanted Moyes to stay.
I can’t feel that any more. What he’s doing now is more embarrassing than last season. The way he’s holding out for another offer is analogous to an average guy with an average job, average sense of humour, average intelligence, stringing along his loving fiancé on the off-chance he might get lucky for a few years with someone normally out of his league but who might have gone through a messy break-up herself. His fiancé knows this, but for some reason she can’t kick him out. She’s humiliated, and even if he stays they can never quite get back to the way it used to be. Okay, I’ll stop that analogy now before I introduce Neville and Barkley as the illegitimate children.
He’s assembled a good team with relatively little, no doubt. However, he too often fails to realise the potential that team has on the pitch. His heart and his head are in other places. He should leave.
Despite all that, unless he goes to Stoke or West Ham, I think he’ll stay.
I was born in 87, so have zero recollection of Everton has a great team. The team I began supporting was one battling against relegation – with the brief reprieve of Joe Royle – every season. It was a decade of clinging on to single moments of elation (primarily Duncan Ferguson inspired) and more often fighting through torpor-inducing Saturday afternoons. Moyes changed that. While I can understand older fans scoffing at ‘seventh place trophies’ and even not quite being sated by successive fifth places, for most people who missed the great pre-90s teams it was a joy to support a team playing decent football and generally going about things the right way (the narrative that we were ‘punching above our weight’ was actually an incredibly compelling one that gave, and continues to give, Moyes and the board an enormous amount of time and concession). So, throughout the post-09 dip, the conservatism, the opportunism, and the worrying propensity he had to let his sullen mood pollute the dressing room, I wanted Moyes to stay.
I can’t feel that any more. What he’s doing now is more embarrassing than last season. The way he’s holding out for another offer is analogous to an average guy with an average job, average sense of humour, average intelligence, stringing along his loving fiancé on the off-chance he might get lucky for a few years with someone normally out of his league but who might have gone through a messy break-up herself. His fiancé knows this, but for some reason she can’t kick him out. She’s humiliated, and even if he stays they can never quite get back to the way it used to be. Okay, I’ll stop that analogy now before I introduce Neville and Barkley as the illegitimate children.
He’s assembled a good team with relatively little, no doubt. However, he too often fails to realise the potential that team has on the pitch. His heart and his head are in other places. He should leave.
Despite all that, unless he goes to Stoke or West Ham, I think he’ll stay.
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
I'd give him a backy on my BMX all the way there if he promised that would happen.
sportbillyblue
Player Valuation: £8m
That would be a very good start.
And as this project is stuttering horribly and seems to have run its course the first thing any real business owner would do is get a new Project Manager in and not just sit back and watch it all flounder helplessly.
Bk should rip his contract up & pay him less he has had his chance to sign an improved offer twice if DM wants to stall then stuff him not one man is bigger than EFC!
Little Ralphy
Player Valuation: £15m
You sound like Moyes. What’s the point of a manager if it’s always down to the players? Do you think having Neville and Osman in midfield does not have a bearing on the game? Possibly two of the least athletic footballers in the league, against a very mobile Wigan side. To be fair the midfield that Moyes has built is not very mobile at all, but at least Gibson has more about him than Osman and Neville in this regard and he’s also much smarter both in possession and with tactical positioning than Neville is in the same position. Why even start Neville?
As you say we have played that structure many a time and played better, do you think that could be because the opposition was different? Despite Moyes grumblings, he does in fact have a squad of players to choose from. You’d think he had 11 and that was it, but there are players there who could easily have come in and changed the make up of the side to combat Wigan’s physical threat and to impose Everton’s will on the game. Instead he chose a very pedestrian side, who started as if they expected to win, and got over-ran by a Wigan side who were very much up for the occasion.
The players can take a share of the blame but a lot of that is down to the preparation from the manager, and he seemed to have got it badly wrong on Saturday.
I have never been anti David Moyes.On many occassions before last Saturday I believe he has made bad decisions,chiefly being too cautious or defensive against weak team.On balance however over the eleven years he has been at the club he has done well for us.
However,I do believe that some supporters are believing the spin put out by the media about Everton and David Moyes.We are led to believe that without him we will collapse as a club,we will slide down the division .We are told that it is only time before he gets to manage a big club and then we will see how good he is.
Well last season there was a big jon on offer(Spurs like Everton are a big club) ,David Moyes made it clear he was interested and it seems he wasn't even considered.
Likewise this summer anybody thinking he is in line for the City or Chelsea jobs are deluding themselves.I think David Moyes will leave to manage a low to middle ranked team in probably Germany or Spain.
The media may rate him very highly but I am not sure he is so highly rated within football to land the chance to manage a wealthy club.
All that this contract issue has done is created the situation where Everton supporters are looking at David Moyes more closely as a manager...and for some the emperor has no clothes.
However,I do believe that some supporters are believing the spin put out by the media about Everton and David Moyes.We are led to believe that without him we will collapse as a club,we will slide down the division .We are told that it is only time before he gets to manage a big club and then we will see how good he is.
Well last season there was a big jon on offer(Spurs like Everton are a big club) ,David Moyes made it clear he was interested and it seems he wasn't even considered.
Likewise this summer anybody thinking he is in line for the City or Chelsea jobs are deluding themselves.I think David Moyes will leave to manage a low to middle ranked team in probably Germany or Spain.
The media may rate him very highly but I am not sure he is so highly rated within football to land the chance to manage a wealthy club.
All that this contract issue has done is created the situation where Everton supporters are looking at David Moyes more closely as a manager...and for some the emperor has no clothes.
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