CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[paulf]

I can't believe kenwright is letting this below average manager treat us like a second rate club. he is basically saying if nothing else comes up he will reluctantly sign a new contract with little old Everton who he thinks he is to good for. It's embaaassing watching this unfold.

Never posted ..just lurked in the background.. Like a lot of evertonians on here been a season ticket holder for years..and for me Saturday was a shocker..Last season before our run after Christmas watched Everton away religiously as well and the football was truly truly abject...stopped going along with 3 other life long blues from watching us away..For me Moyes is a one trick pony..has been found out....Lets try someone new..how about pressing a team going all out for a win.. 7 over 30 in the squad...Yes he has cemented us as a top 8 solid team..the scary thing is there is even a contract on offer for him..mind boggles..My post is probably all over the place..still very angry from Saturday

 

[Mogwai]

I can't believe kenwright is letting this below average manager treat us like a second rate club. he is basically saying if nothing else comes up he will reluctantly sign a new contract with little old Everton who he thinks he is to good for. It's embaaassing watching this unfold.

Really? C'mon guys....sure we are frustrated and what not....but we need to look at the bigger picture and be appreciative of the stability that Moyes has achieved under the circumstances he has had to operate under.

I really do believe that a lot of what Moyes gets blamed for is not his fault at all, in fact I do not believe the lacklustre game against Wigan had much to do with him at all for example....He is in a much better position to assess what needs to be done and how than any of us here. And I am sure he has a logical reasoning for his actions...Sure he is not perfect and somewhat conservative, but do people really think he is so thick that he doesn't see all the things we see?

Different Board = Different Moyes........go to the source of the problem

 

[Jags..class]

Really? C'mon guys....sure we are frustrated and what not....but we need to look at the bigger picture and be appreciative of the stability that Moyes has achieved under the circumstances he has had to operate under.

I really do believe that a lot of what Moyes gets blamed for is not his fault at all, in fact I do not believe the lacklustre game against Wigan had much to do with him at all for example....He is in a much better position to assess what needs to be done and how than any of us here. And I am sure he has a logical reasoning for his actions...Sure he is not perfect and somewhat conservative, but do people really think he is so thick that he doesn't see all the things we see?

Different Board = Different Moyes........go to the source of the problem

Spot on. Moyes deserves our respect.

 

[sheeds]

Really? C'mon guys....sure we are frustrated and what not....but we need to look at the bigger picture and be appreciative of the stability that Moyes has achieved under the circumstances he has had to operate under.

I really do believe that a lot of what Moyes gets blamed for is not his fault at all, in fact I do not believe the lacklustre game against Wigan had much to do with him at all for example....He is in a much better position to assess what needs to be done and how than any of us here. And I am sure he has a logical reasoning for his actions...Sure he is not perfect and somewhat conservative, but do people really think he is so thick that he doesn't see all the things we see?

Different Board = Different Moyes........go to the source of the problem

I'll accept some of what you say mate but put simply do you believe his current contract stance is effecting us ? Do you think as evertonians it's acceptable to be the managers 'back-up' ? Do you also think his post match comments are indicative of his attitude and perhaps the problems at the club ?

 

[bflefc]

Really? C'mon guys....sure we are frustrated and what not....but we need to look at the bigger picture and be appreciative of the stability that Moyes has achieved under the circumstances he has had to operate under.

I really do believe that a lot of what Moyes gets blamed for is not his fault at all, in fact I do not believe the lacklustre game against Wigan had much to do with him at all for example....He is in a much better position to assess what needs to be done and how than any of us here. And I am sure he has a logical reasoning for his actions...Sure he is not perfect and somewhat conservative, but do people really think he is so thick that he doesn't see all the things we see?

Different Board = Different Moyes........go to the source of the problem

Wigan - and the way we were set-up - had absolutely nothing to do with the Board and finances. The cautiosness, the approach of trying to avoid defeat rather than win a game is in Moyes' DNA and will be the way he approaches 99% of matches regardless of who is on the Board and how much wonga he's got in his war-chest.

 

[Mogwai]

I'll accept some of what you say mate but put simply do you believe his current contract stance is effecting us ? Do you think as evertonians it's acceptable to be the managers 'back-up' ? Do you also think his post match comments are indicative of his attitude and perhaps the problems at the club ?

This is what I said earlier about my thoughts on his contract stance...

This summer with the T.V money and most likely the sale of Felliani, I just can not fathom why if Moyes had the smallest inkling of wanting to stay...why he hasn't signed a contract. Building on our base squad, this summer, he has the best opportunity he ever has to make his mark and finally achieve something at Everton. It actually is the worst time for him to quit if he really wanted to do something great with Everton.....Bizzare!

Firstly, yes I do believe it is effecting us, pretty much since he has been putting it off we have seen a different team...........Secondly, If there has been one thing that annoys me the most about Moyes, it is his attitude and in turn comments. Charismatic Moyes is not.

But the question is why is Moyes's attitude seem so much worst at the moment and why is he deliberating so much over his contract. For me it stems from how the club is run.

 

[Mogwai]

Wigan - and the way we were set-up - had absolutely nothing to do with the Board and finances. The cautiosness, the approach of trying to avoid defeat rather than win a game is in Moyes' DNA and will be the way he approaches 99% of matches regardless of who is on the Board and how much wonga he's got in his war-chest.

I think you are taking my post a bit to literal....The Wigan game for me was all on the players.. We have played that structure many a time and played much better....The players know it inside out and should have given a lot more than they did.

Look, I am not all pro Moyes and I am still 50/50 if I want him out. My Concern is that we have reached the limit that his managerial style can accomplish. But on the other hand has that limit been caused by the circumstances the board have created?

I do not agree with you about moyes always trying to avoid defeat....That may have been the case in previous seasons but not now. At the beginning of the season I felt like Moyes had said 'fack it' to being defensive and always went for the win. But when we started drawing all those games, I think he had to re-consider that a little...TBH I still think we play a pretty attacking style atm, otherwise we would have Felli dropped deeper ect. It just is not coming off at the moment and alot of that comes onto the players.

The Boards willingness to invest and back moyes dictates how he can play.....He knows he does not have a team full of world beaters....So I believe he tries to play a numbers game with his approach...which may come across as quite dire.

How can you say that will be his approach no matter who is on the board and how much money he has??? We have never seen any different!

 

[Kev50]

Everton are at warp factor 9. We won't be going any higher. Don't you get it, we will never be able to compete with the top 4 on a level playing field. All this garbage about a lack of investment, nobody is going to invest hundreds of millions into Everton.

 

[sbbefc]

Why doesn't he just sign a 1-3 year contract, if other clubs want him they can get him.

 

[sheeds]

Everton are at warp factor 9. We won't be going any higher. Don't you get it, we will never be able to compete with the top 4 on a level playing field. All this garbage about a lack of investment, nobody is going to invest hundreds of millions into Everton.

I can see your point although if its true what do we do just not bother anymore ? I bet man city fans said the same a few years ago although I accept that's a pipe dream , here's a plan lets start by acting like a business . Come up with plans , structure maybe even a strategy lets look to maximise profit & not have a rob peter to pay Paul financial plan that's left us with zero assets . The Debts increasing annually and our plan appears to be to cross our fingers .

 

[harry]

Why doesn't he just sign a 1-3 year contract, if other clubs want him they can get him.

so we can keep paying him whilst he waits for something better. WE need to get rid.

 

[Mogwai]

Why doesn't he just sign a 1-3 year contract, if other clubs want him they can get him.

I thought that....But then that leaves a whole lot of uncertainty that will surely effect the club...Managerial positions in the top leagues should never be seen as stepping stones. You either buy in to the ethos or feck off.

 

[steken1]

Why doesn't he just sign a 1-3 year contract, if other clubs want him they can get him.

How little respect have you got for our club and it's heritage mate?

FFS!

 

[Baines' left foot]

Put him on a 1 month rolling contract. He can leave whenever he wants then.

 

[orchard]

Put him on a 1 month rolling contract. He can leave whenever he wants then.

Hahaha, and buy him a Lear jet out of the 'other operating expenses' to help him look for a decent job, and have a family vacation...