CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[davek]

Interesting quote from Jagielka in the Echo today about Moyes' contract:

“Well, at the end of the day, if we do win the cup and he doesn’t sign, it will still be a fantastic feat for the players. We are a very close squad and we get on very well. As much as we go out there to do it for the manager, we do it for each other as well. Obviously, the fans, too. We had a good following today and the fans are brilliant, too. So there is more than one person there to play for. We don’t have to feel that we have to prove anything. The manager has pretty much brought every single player in, bar one or two, so we are his players. He has made decisions that he wants to make. He has come out in the press and said he will not sign anything until the end of the season, which is fine with us. Obviously, it will be nice to give him a quick reminder of how good we are by keeping this cup run going and pushing as high as we can up the Premier League.”

That sounds like there's a bit of a resentment there that Moyes has linked his decision on whether to stay or not to the performance of the players.

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[steken1]

Mostly absolute crap, and yet we're 6th in the league. Hmmm.

Honestly, how many of the sides below us would you say play good football?

 

[Brennan]

Interesting quote from Jagielka in the Echo today about Moyes' contract:

“Well, at the end of the day, if we do win the cup and he doesn’t sign, it will still be a fantastic feat for the players. We are a very close squad and we get on very well. As much as we go out there to do it for the manager, we do it for each other as well. Obviously, the fans, too. We had a good following today and the fans are brilliant, too. So there is more than one person there to play for. We don’t have to feel that we have to prove anything. The manager has pretty much brought every single player in, bar one or two, so we are his players. He has made decisions that he wants to make. He has come out in the press and said he will not sign anything until the end of the season, which is fine with us. Obviously, it will be nice to give him a quick reminder of how good we are by keeping this cup run going and pushing as high as we can up the Premier League.”

That sounds like there's a bit of a resentment there that Moyes has linked his decision on whether t stay or not to the performance of the players.

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*spin*

 

[Allezfan]

Mostly absolute crap, and yet we're 6th in the league. Hmmm.

Allardyce's Bolton, though.

There is a difference between quality of football and the quality of the results.

I do think it's true that while we can play good football, we tend to do it only in patches. Twenty minutes here, a half there etc.

 

[steken1]

Interesting quote from Jagielka in the Echo today about Moyes' contract:

“Well, at the end of the day, if we do win the cup and he doesn’t sign, it will still be a fantastic feat for the players. We are a very close squad and we get on very well. As much as we go out there to do it for the manager, we do it for each other as well. Obviously, the fans, too. We had a good following today and the fans are brilliant, too. So there is more than one person there to play for. We don’t have to feel that we have to prove anything. The manager has pretty much brought every single player in, bar one or two, so we are his players. He has made decisions that he wants to make. He has come out in the press and said he will not sign anything until the end of the season, which is fine with us. Obviously, it will be nice to give him a quick reminder of how good we are by keeping this cup run going and pushing as high as we can up the Premier League.”

That sounds like there's a bit of a resentment there that Moyes has linked his decision on whether t stay or not to the performance of the players.

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A nice subtle the club is bigger than Moyes shout there.

 

[Allezfan]

Honestly, how many of the sides below us would you say play good football?

Good point that.

 

[Brennan]

Honestly, how many of the sides below us would you say play good football?

Depends on what you mean by 'good football'. Seeing as it's one of the best leagues in Europe i'd say the standard of football is pretty high. Unless by 'absolute crap' people mean 'not Real Madrid'.

We clearly haven't played crap football for most of the season. We had created more chances on goal than pretty much every team in Europe up until October time, for example.

Even when we were drawing games because we couldn't kill them off, we still weren't playing badly.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Excellent post!

I especially agree with the bolded part. Our periods of good football have been few and far between this season, with us playing a brand of absolutely crap football for the most part. However some people seem to be convinced that it has been the other way around :/

What team have you been watching this season? Some of our football especially in the early part of this season was great. At one point we'd hd the most shots on goal in all of Europe. All tht we lacked was the ruthlessness to finish teams off. We absolutely destroyed Newcstle at home but got done by the ref and our suspect centrebacks. We also demolished Vill and Swansea away, swept the floor with Southampton, had a great performance against Man U at home, was on course for a great derby performance before Suarez crocked Mirallas and Brendan parked the bus in the second half (and even that was with only half he first team fit), absoltuely monstered Fulham away once again being undone by our poor defense and a wonder free kick, the list goes on and on for this season. I would buy people criticising poor defending or the missing of chances s reasons why this seaosn hsn't been better but you cannot honestly sy that the football has been terrible for most of this season. I hate the way people just make things up to have a go at Moyes like the past 11 years hasn't produced any decent football. Behave.

 

[davek]

*spin*

How am I spinning it? He's stating that the manager brought them in so they reflect upon him - in other words, he should [place the emphasis back on his own actions when he considers his options.

I really dot know how else to read that. Perhaps you could offer an alternative reading of it?

 

[ah11984]

Love that Jagielka quote, what a man.

 

[davek]

Depends on what you mean by 'good football'. Seeing as it's one of the best leagues in Europe i'd say the standard of football is pretty high. Unless by 'absolute crap' people mean 'not Real Madrid'.

We clearly haven't played crap football for most of the season. We had created more chances on goal than pretty much every team in Europe up until October time, for example.

Even when we were drawing games because we couldn't kill them off, we still weren't playing badly.

We do NOT play consistently good football. In fact, it's pretty embarrassing agricultural stuff a lot of the time broken up only by the class of Pienaar/Baines and Mirallas's efforts.

 

[steken1]

What team have you been watching this season? Some of our football especially in the early part of this season was great. At one point we'd hd the most shots on goal in all of Europe. All tht we lacked was the ruthlessness to finish teams off. We absolutely destroyed Newcstle at home but got done by the ref and our suspect centrebacks. We also demolished Vill and Swansea away, swept the floor with Southampton, had a great performance against Man U at home, was on course for a great derby performance before Suarez crocked Mirallas and Brendan parked the bus in the second half (and even that was with only half he first team fit), absoltuely monstered Fulham away once again being undone by our poor defense and a wonder free kick, the list goes on and on for this season. I would buy people criticising poor defending or the missing of chances s reasons why this seaosn hsn't been better but you cannot honestly sy that the football has been terrible for most of this season. I hate the way people just make things up to have a go at Moyes like the past 11 years hasn't produced any decent football. Behave.

The list doesn't go on and on. Nobody is disputing that we played well early in the season. Since then we've been hit and miss.

 

[Brennan]

How am I spinning it? He's stating that the manager brought them in so they reflect upon him - in other words, he should [place the emphasis back on his own actions when he considers his options.

I really dot know how else to read that. Perhaps you could offer an alternative reading of it?

I don't see where you're getting the 'resentment' from in what Jagielka has said there. Seems like a pretty positive answer to a question which was likely 'How is Moyes' decision to not sign affecting the team'.

 

[Brennan]

We do NOT play consistently good football. In fact, it's pretty embarrassing agricultural stuff a lot of the time broken up only by the class of Pienaar/Baines and Mirallas's efforts.

I'm not sure how that translates to being 'absolute crap for most of the season'.

Stoke play absolute crap football. We do not.

 

[By god I'm blue]

Hadn't they also created more chances away from home than any other side in Europe at one point this season I recall?

Must of been playing some decent stuff to do that.

Oh and Pabbers, don't quote anything Adrian Durham ever says please, the man is a Class A melon.