Come on lads, it's time for the wailing an gnashing of teeth to stop.

[PDAWG]

Gomez, definitely. Lallana only because our central midfield options are a disgrace. Milner and Origi in place of who? Minamino, who knows? He didn't look all that today. He did alright in Austria but that's no guarantee of anything.

Milner at CM, Origi for DCL

 

[Goat]

They do as a one off. We all KNOW that's there in them to do that. But dont mistake one offs for ability and consistency of ability.

These players are not good enough. All but 5 or 6 are trash. HALF A BILLION SPENT ON A SQUAD ALMOST CHOCCA WITH TRASH.

Then some point the finger at those of us who look at Brands as inadequate and wonder WTF we're talking about.

Hi Dave, can you name the 5 or 6 that arent trash? Im willing to bet that Brands signed them all.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Hi Dave, can you name the 5 or 6 that arent trash? Im willing to bet that Brands signed them all.

The only good player we have is Richarlison, signed by Silva.

Brands has done next to nothing of any benefit.

 

[Street end man]

The fans acceptance of these humiliations over the last 25 years is what beats me. Always someone ready to say "give him time it'll come good" Ancelotti screwed up today with a horrific hand to play admittedly. Ferguson was the man for this game, the only man who could get these cheats to earn a wage. RS under 23's 1 Everton first team 0.

 

[windymiller]

Milner at CM, Origi for DCL

When was the last time Milner played CM? Origi for DCL, I'm no fan of DCL but Origi only scores against Everton and in cup finals and we don't get to cup finals.

 

[PDAWG]

When was the last time Milner played CM? Origi for DCL, I'm no fan of DCL but Origi only scores against Everton and in cup finals and we don't get to cup finals.

Origi looks far better on the ball than DCL, DCL is a better target man, but footballing ability Origi is better

Milner would frigging waltz into our midfield, he runs and battles and that alone makes him a better option

 

[PITA]

71 I think in 1970 we played then off the park in a 2-0 win on the way to a championship win we had a midfield then it was called the holy trinity...,...

November 1970 was not in the 1969/70 title winning season. The 3-2 loss was November 1970.

 

[ADT]

The gnashing teeth will stop when we win at Anfield

 

[jazzy]

Hi Dave, can you name the 5 or 6 that arent trash? Im willing to bet that Brands signed them all.

Or , put another way , who has Brands signed that is decent ?

 

[Cookmysock]

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It was another loss to a decent bunch of Liverpool players with a pretty untalented Everton team.

This is what happens with the Everton team erected in the last 3 seasons or so with too much cash. This is the Zombie Everton lingering on.

Let's hand Carlo the tools to transform us and get these players out and his own better quality players in.

I dont even consider this ground zero. That happened weeks ago at Anfield with that 5-2 mauling. Decisions were taken then which ended up with us having a genius manager in our dugout. As long as he's backed, he'll get us our position and status back in a couple of seasons.

Five or six of Ancelotti type players in to add to a small handful of the current lot and we'll be a different proposition next season. It's going to get better. Much, much better.

agree with everything here dave the also the ancelotti type players need to be got in by ancelotti not brands.we have a squad of players put together by different managers and directors of football not a team as such individuals who play with no co-hesion no togetherness. Schneiderlin siggurdsson are the worst of the lot they need shipping out with a lot more.we need the manager to sign players he wants to build a team. not try and make players brands signs play as a team. you can't get a joiner to hang a door with a plasterers trowel.

 

[joebocop]

Elliott and chirivella were the only starters for both our game and the villa game. It's still their c team that beat us today, but it was a stronger team than the villa game.

 

[PITA]

Quite a few posts around the web calling out Carlo comparing his impact to that of Duncs bearing out Mosh's comment that 2 bad games and some fans want a nads on a plate sandwich. As ever it's all about results if he stumbles along and we remain safe and communicates well with fans his honeymoon period will extend to summer. Problem is without a dynamic january window to show light at the end of the tunnel it just smacks of more "jam tomorrow" and by god this fanbase has had enough of that, throw in a few more bad results and he'll get his head kicked in at Asda car park in Widnes

That's very weird.

 

[AmericasToffee]

Elliott and chirivella were the only starters for both our game and the villa game. It's still their c team that beat us today, but it was a stronger team than the villa game.

Much stronger.

 

[Barry Rathbone]

That's very weird.

Halewood is shut you see

 

[Goat]

Or , put another way , who has Brands signed that is decent ?

Digne, Richarlison, Gomes, Bernie, Mina, with Kean, Lossl and Gbamin still to leave their mark.

I get that people are angry after today, but I dont buy into the "whole squad is rubbish" mantra myself.

It needs work for sure.