I'm impressed that you know a wide selection of billionaires personally 
Could you persuade any of them to invest in us?
Could you persuade any of them to invest in us?
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The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
I'm impressed that you know a wide selection of billionaires personally
LOL - a wide selection is perhaps stretching it, one or two perhaps
It is a subject that has come up once or twice!
How exactly were KEIOC and / or any other 3rd party expected to be able to bring a solution to the table when the Club we're not allowed to look at it?
Any chance of time and money being spent on a costing and viability study for an alternative Stadium went out the window when everyone saw the way Bestway were treated after spending seven figures on studies for the loop site.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The Esk: I think you're absoultely right that a new owner will want to buy as low as possible the shares of the club if they're to wipe out the debt and finance team-building. I would keep a close eye on Everton's actions in the coming two transfer windows with regard to that. If this lot are looking to jump ship (because they're bankrupt now...no one will see them as credible partners for a stadium bid that we desperately need) then they'll attack the debt in rder to keep share price bouyant with sales of players. I'm pretty convinced this will happen myself.
Just one other thing - in terms of new owners funding a stadium, I think they'll be looking to do exactly the same as the club were doing with DK: ensnare local state and a developer (with the blessing of all the regional bodies and the money they can unlock) in order to minimize they're capital investment.
Bruce: you're equation of KEIOC with the club makes no sense to me. It's almost like saying that CND has to provide for the defence of the State when/if they rid us of nuclear weapons.
Almost, that is, because they haven't just shouted loudly from the sidelines. The Loop: do you think that proposal was just the brainchild of Malcolm Carter of Bestway? Getting Bradley to promise to increase the footprint of Goodison Park? KEIOC have been instrumental there.
I think, in your attempt to wish a pox on both houses, you do at least one of them an injustice.
Just one other thing - in terms of new owners funding a stadium, I think they'll be looking to do exactly the same as the club were doing with DK: ensnare local state and a developer (with the blessing of all the regional bodies and the money they can unlock) in order to minimize they're capital investment.
Bruce: you're equation of KEIOC with the club makes no sense to me. It's almost like saying that CND has to provide for the defence of the State when/if they rid us of nuclear weapons.
Almost, that is, because they haven't just shouted loudly from the sidelines. The Loop: do you think that proposal was just the brainchild of Malcolm Carter of Bestway? Getting Bradley to promise to increase the footprint of Goodison Park? KEIOC have been instrumental there.
I think, in your attempt to wish a pox on both houses, you do at least one of them an injustice.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
I'm sure you're right, that is exactly what they would want to do, but when negotiating a purchase price for the club, they would assume no cross subsidy from third parties. BK is probably (if he is genuinely interested in selling) pricing this into the club, purchasers most certainly will not be.
What are you waiting for? We need to sign Messi NOW!LOL - a wide selection is perhaps stretching it, one or two perhaps
It is a subject that has come up once or twice!
I'm not saying they have to provide for a new stadium but you have to provide alternatives to what it is you're complaining about. It's like when you're dealing with kids, if you tell them to stop doing something it's pretty likely they'll do the exact opposite. KEIOC simply entrenched the club into their Kirkby position because they attacked rather than worked with the board.
but what were they supposed to do? They told the Club (quite rightly) that it couldn't get past planning as it was a dodgy scheme, they came up with all kinds of alternatives which the club dismissed out of hand, what more, exactly were they to do?
Granted they made a few mistakes (the hoolie vids being a notable one), but they went out of their way to highlight the issues and highlight alternatives.
Just because we may not agree with their methods, or doubt their motives, doesn't mean they weren't right, or that we need to find reason to have a dig, even if we weren't all 'on their side'
Bruce has just covered the massive holes in your logic there mate.
And yes, with the extra capacity and increase corporate income City would have done better as they have more income, and was probably a big factor in them attracting investment like they did.
If Evertonians are the biggest asset then don't you want more of them? Substandard football because of lack of investment isn't so attractive to increasing your so called biggest asset mate - especially when we share the city with a very famous club.
What happened to the truce?
The bad KEIOC types broke it.
This is like Serbs and Croats here. The Republic is cracking apart.
I'll war crime the lot of you.
KRIOC
So to some up we're exactly back were we started from, no plan B, no investment - Kirkby out!
Billionaire any day now!
Billionaire any day now!
There's no war from me, I just find it a bit puzzling that the underlying sentiment from those who wanted Kirkby to happen is that it would allow us to attract investment. Investment, or lack thereof, is why Goodison is in the state it's it now because previous\current boards didn't put any into it that was meaningful in the long term...but let's just [Poor language removed] all that off and jump into unknown waters in a sorry attempt at keeping up with the Jones'. No, thank you...until the whole board goes, they're getting no love from me when it comes to the topic of Goodison Park because they're the mugs directly responsible for this even being a topic, all based on what they haven't done previously. All Kirkby ever was, was a meal ticket out for these cheapskates.
Don't throw me in with KEIOC Chico, that's BlackToffee methodology and you're much too jovial for that sh*te. I'm 5k miles away from Goodison Park so location means very little to me. People trying to weasel their way out of their own grave is another. Go back and look at what was, I think, my very first post on GoT...it's in the Kirkby thread. Nothing's changed with me as it concerns my view on the main point of why I opposed Kirkby. All my other viewpoints are secondary to this one and can be debated ad infinitum.
C'mon Chiiicy...give us a kiss.
Don't throw me in with KEIOC Chico, that's BlackToffee methodology and you're much too jovial for that sh*te. I'm 5k miles away from Goodison Park so location means very little to me. People trying to weasel their way out of their own grave is another. Go back and look at what was, I think, my very first post on GoT...it's in the Kirkby thread. Nothing's changed with me as it concerns my view on the main point of why I opposed Kirkby. All my other viewpoints are secondary to this one and can be debated ad infinitum.
C'mon Chiiicy...give us a kiss.
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DENNIS STEVENS
Player Valuation: £20m
I'd say we're worse than back where we started. The debt has continued to rise, time & money have been wasted & our Board now lack credibilty after this latest failure to deliver a proposed new stadium.
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