Club Report Overall Operating Loss of Nearly £7M

[ToxtethBlue]

Was William Ralph from your side of Birkenshithead, Goat?

 

[Goat]

My Great Grandad used to tell me he went to the same Primary School as him. But I was a wee nipper, so didnt even have a clue who he was.

There wasnt as much information available when I was a lad.

 

[Neiler]

I've said all along that the fate of Destination Kirkby would be THE defining moment for the club. Failure to achieve it would mean only one thing: new owners with a new stadium plan...in that order. Nothing but bad news can, or will, emanate from the club off-field with this lot in control. It'll be about clearing the decks in preparation for a sale, and that will have its knock on effect for team affairs. It'll be grim in the short term. The good news is that we have a manager who may not be a master tactician capable of troubling the top teams regularly, but he is ideal for a team that needs to apply itself, get out of trouble and keep well out of harms way whilst all the off-field stuff unfolds. We're going to need his loyalty in the next period.

So to summise plan A = Billionaire!

 

[Neiler]

If you read back I've clearly pulled all your pants down.

You're in a mess now because you can't point out that needs to be done now. The whole premise of your Kirkby argument falls apart as we're left in the lurch without a plan B.

Not one of you has answered that adequately or even remotely. Instead you all were allowed to be carried along on the wave of KEIOC.

Makes me sad as I thought blues had a good head on their shoulders.

As Ive stated, Id much rather stay at Goodison but I'd much rather - same as little spaniard - see Everton win stuff in my lifetime again. Kirkby is not the Nou Camp were all crying out for but we couldnt afford it and we wouldnt fill it so that extra 6 million a year from Kirkboid - and being more attractive to the investors you crave - would have benefited us better than staying at Goodison as I neither see the investors or new stadium projects lined up.

There was a massive whole in your argument and it's been exposed.

Like I sad, don't dare whinge when we have absolutely f all to spend in the coming transfer windows. One things for sure, we can't continue to operate at a loss.

So, what now? Speak with your spiritual leaders of "its not a boundary issue but looked what we've called ourselves" KEIOC.

Post of the year it has to be said!

 

[Gazdalf]

If you read back I've clearly pulled all your pants down.

You're in a mess now because you can't point out that needs to be done now. The whole premise of your Kirkby argument falls apart as we're left in the lurch without a plan B.

Not one of you has answered that adequately or even remotely. Instead you all were allowed to be carried along on the wave of KEIOC.

Makes me sad as I thought blues had a good head on their shoulders.

As Ive stated, Id much rather stay at Goodison but I'd much rather - same as little spaniard - see Everton win stuff in my lifetime again. Kirkby is not the Nou Camp were all crying out for but we couldnt afford it and we wouldnt fill it so that extra 6 million a year from Kirkboid - and being more attractive to the investors you crave - would have benefited us better than staying at Goodison as I neither see the investors or new stadium projects lined up.

There was a massive whole in your argument and it's been exposed.

Like I sad, don't dare whinge when we have absolutely f all to spend in the coming transfer windows. One things for sure, we can't continue to operate at a loss.

So, what now? Speak with your spiritual leaders of "its not a boundary issue but looked what we've called ourselves" KEIOC.

I hope this is a packet of Rolo's in my pocket.

If not I am clearly aroused.

 

[Neiler]

Clearly a resounding victory for the azul-a-nator!

 

[Gazdalf]

Clearly a resounding victory for the azul-a-nator!

Thats so cheesy it gets my vote. *shudders*

 

[Neiler]

Thats so cheesy it gets my vote. *shudders*

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

"You two have never had an argument in your life and in two minutes
flat he's got you at it. He's a king mixer. He hates group unity, so he gets everyone at it."

Isn't that right, grandad?

 

[gordonjblair]

If you read back I've clearly pulled all your pants down.

You're in a mess now because you can't point out that needs to be done now. The whole premise of your Kirkby argument falls apart as we're left in the lurch without a plan B.

Not one of you has answered that adequately or even remotely. Instead you all were allowed to be carried along on the wave of KEIOC.

Makes me sad as I thought blues had a good head on their shoulders.

As Ive stated, Id much rather stay at Goodison but I'd much rather - same as little spaniard - see Everton win stuff in my lifetime again. Kirkby is not the Nou Camp were all crying out for but we couldnt afford it and we wouldnt fill it so that extra 6 million a year from Kirkboid - and being more attractive to the investors you crave - would have benefited us better than staying at Goodison as I neither see the investors or new stadium projects lined up.

There was a massive whole in your argument and it's been exposed.

Like I sad, don't dare whinge when we have absolutely f all to spend in the coming transfer windows. One things for sure, we can't continue to operate at a loss.

So, what now? Speak with your spiritual leaders of "its not a boundary issue but looked what we've called ourselves" KEIOC.

Dear me, you're doing this on purpose you fcuking tease...

Had KEIOC not existed, do you think the ground would have got built?

Of course it fcuking wouldn't, because the key objections, the ones that mattered, were those raised by the neighbouring authorities pertaining to 'Retail Hierarchies and other such bollocks'. The SoS couldn't give a monkey's chuff if there was a stadium there or not, they were never going to be allowed to put that many shops there, so we were never going to get the promised back hander, so we could never afford to build.

I can understand people being hurt and upset and needing someone to blame, and KEIOC did a sterling job of painting a big bullseye on their arses with some of their tactics, but the painful truth is they had no material effect on the outcome.

The moon landings weren't filmed in Hollywood
The CIA did not bring down the twin towers
and KEIOC did not stop the Stadium getting built.

 

[best little spaniard]

Well you lot suck, so I win.

There we go, sorted.

 

[chicoazul]

Gordon: so what now? X
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[gordonjblair]

Gordon: so what now? X
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Now we find out what, if anything, is really out there

Now, the board swallow their pride and go and talk to LCC

Now, the board go and apologise to Bestway and ask if they're still interested

Now, the Board spend a couple of months reviewing what if anything is on the table and actually do a proper deselection exercise rather than jumping for the first easy answer.

Or someone comes in and buys the club (reckon DM knows something).

The only thing we have lost is time and money, DK was never going to happen, because the enabling critical mass was never going to be achieved. We've stood still, not gone backwards. We have pissed a load of people off as a football club, though

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

Chico, why do you seem to want to debate DK now that it's not happening? Why do you insist it would have been beneficial to the club as if that is a fact, when it's just your opinion? The facts we know are that it would put the club much more heavily into debt than it is already, the match-day transport arrangements would have made it much harder for supporters to attend & the hoped for profit of £6 million was dependant on achieving some very ambitious attendance & cororate hospitality figures. The £6 million may have been realised or even exceeded, but there was a high risk that it would not & that the club could end up even worse off than it is at Goodison Park. You may consider the risk was minimal & worth taking but many of us didn't - that's just a difference of opinion & neither side will ever be proven right or wrong as the scheme as proposed will not now happen. You seem to think this poor proposal was good simply because it was the only one the Board chose to pursue & you seem to have bought into the drivel from Wyness about the dire consequences for the club if DK didn't proceed.

As for KEIOC, I don't know them & you may have greater knowledge of them than me - I know of some mistakes made & of a some very detailed work to try & unravel what the DK proposal was really all about. Regardless of whether you or I would have been proven correct in our respective hopes & fears for the club if DK had proceeded, KEIOC correctly predicted that the opposition to the scale of the retail development from neighbouring authorities, etc. would see the scheme called in for a public inquiry leading to the thumbs-down at ministerial level. The Board of EFC either didn't see this, didn't get it checked out, or didn't want to believe it & so wasted all this time & money whilst giving false cause for hope to those fans who they persuaded to support DK - the only people who've been made to look silly by KEIOC are the Board & the Board have made those who were pro-DK look silly for supporting them, so it's you who should be fuming - with the Board.

 

[chicoazul]

Now we find out what, if anything, is really out there

Now, the board swallow their pride and go and talk to LCC

Now, the board go and apologise to Bestway and ask if they're still interested

Now, the Board spend a couple of months reviewing what if anything is on the table and actually do a proper deselection exercise rather than jumping for the first easy answer.

Or someone comes in and buys the club (reckon DM knows something).

The only thing we have lost is time and money, DK was never going to happen, because the enabling critical mass was never going to be achieved. We've stood still, not gone backwards. We have pissed a load of people off as a football club, though

So, what about the funding for such a massive project? We just lost six million this year alone and were not a more attractive proposition because of all this.

I disagree with it was never going to go ahead, on the contrary it was very close, and although unlikely could still be rejuvenated but with a lesser capacity although I hope that very much doesn't happen.

But cheers Gordon, you're the only one that clearly had thought of what happens next.

Dennis, I'm still waiting - when's the softback out? You may want to consider who's looking silly mate.

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