Current Affairs Climate Change

[verreauxi]

Why on earth would I be aware of that when quoting direct from the paper? Your judgement and powers of deduction are pure Inspector Clouseau.

If you had any class you would simply of apologised for yet another incorrect crass musing but as you didn't it's on to the naughty step for you.

Ciao baby

I wrote everything clearly but you choose to cherry-pick selective bits from my post (ignoring the substantive critiques) and even when you've arrived at something to respond to, your response doesn't make sense. For example, you used the term "lucky" in reference to a "Russian model" and I provided you with a google search you could do ["russian model" lucky climate]. Go ahead and click on that link and you'll see that the first hit is from wattsupwiththat. That is exactly what I wrote above. I've reproduced it here as well: As to the substance of your post, I'm aware of this paper, but what you failed to note was that others on wattsupwiththat had called this climate model "lucky" and you are parroting their words.

I have no need to apologize for anything. I am still curious, however, about your quote-mining from a known anti-vax site.

edit: If Rathbone has let his emotions get the better of him and put me on ignore, can someone who's not on ignore copy and paste my response so he can see it. You run the risk of being on ignore yourself, however...

 

[Kenshin]

Climate change is the millennial modern social media nonsense in full force now.

It's clearly real, I mean winter isn't even cold anymore , I remember having to go out fully kitted to battle the conditions. Bit of rain and a mild chill is all you get now.

But sticking a young girl and calling her the spokesperson for a generation brings ridicule onto the case , not awareness. Is she a climate change scientist? Is she some sort of second coming of Jesus? No she is just a girl that people have stupidly made the face of the issue which takes away the point about it all. No longer about climate change, it's all about her, the grown ups who made the decision to sell her out effectively are at fault.

And I see vegans have moved onto be a vegan and save the world. Unless they refuse to drive , fly , use any product that was made by a factory causing climate change , use any service that contributes to climate change, etc. Then vegans are hypocrites when they peddle this line .

None of this is about veganism or saving the world. It's all for a few extra likes and shares online.

 

[verreauxi]

I believe you’ve put everyone on ignore who’s had the gall to disagree with your fairytales. lol

Quite infantile to put someone on ignore who disagrees with you. I've been accused of being "emotive" having "incandescent anger" and "frothing" yet it appears that his statement "ciao baby" suggests that it is Rathbone who is being emotional, assuming he's put me on ignore.

 

[verreauxi]

Climate change is the millennial modern social media nonsense in full force now.

It's clearly real, I mean winter isn't even cold anymore , I remember having to go out fully kitted to battle the conditions. Bit of rain and a mild chill is all you get now.

But sticking a young girl and calling her the spokesperson for a generation brings ridicule onto the case , not awareness. Is she a climate change scientist? Is she some sort of second coming of Jesus? No she is just a girl that people have stupidly made the face of the issue which takes away the point about it all. No longer about climate change, it's all about her, the grown ups who made the decision to sell her out effectively are at fault.

And I see vegans have moved onto be a vegan and save the world. Unless they refuse to drive , fly , use any product that was made by a factory causing climate change , use any service that contributes to climate change, etc. Then vegans are hypocrites when they peddle this line .

None of this is about veganism or saving the world. It's all for a few extra likes and shares online.

Just to be clear, I don't think any climate scientist asked her to be the face of climate change awareness. Climate scientists have been promoting this issue for years in the face of climate-denialists funded by the fossil fuel industry. She seems to have chosen herself and, typical of the media, this got super-hyped up because she happens to be a 16 year-old girl.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Climate change is the millennial modern social media nonsense in full force now.

It's clearly real, I mean winter isn't even cold anymore , I remember having to go out fully kitted to battle the conditions. Bit of rain and a mild chill is all you get now.

But sticking a young girl and calling her the spokesperson for a generation brings ridicule onto the case , not awareness. Is she a climate change scientist? Is she some sort of second coming of Jesus? No she is just a girl that people have stupidly made the face of the issue which takes away the point about it all. No longer about climate change, it's all about her, the grown ups who made the decision to sell her out effectively are at fault.

And I see vegans have moved onto be a vegan and save the world. Unless they refuse to drive , fly , use any product that was made by a factory causing climate change , use any service that contributes to climate change, etc. Then vegans are hypocrites when they peddle this line .

None of this is about veganism or saving the world. It's all for a few extra likes and shares online.

Not sure where to start with this to be honest, but let’s say that having a younger person openly and bravely discuss this is a stark reminder that it will affect future generations more than ourselves.
Flying vegans ffs lol lol

 

[Kenshin]

Just to be clear, I don't think any climate scientist asked her to be the face of climate change awareness. Climate scientists have been promoting this issue for years in the face of climate-denialists funded by the fossil fuel industry. She seems to have chosen herself and, typical of the media, this got super-hyped up because she happens to be a 16 year-old girl.

Not sure where to start with this to be honest, but let’s say that having a younger person openly and bravely discuss this is a stark reminder that it will affect future generations more than ourselves.
Flying vegans ffs lol lol

No I'm not implying the scientists have made that decision , publicity agents have. Ones probably paid to highlight the issue in the media so they pluck a 16 year old girl and make her the face of climate change.

Actually think about that for a minute . We have a face for climate change. It's ridiculous, send her round the world shouting about it , pick a fight with trump for attention and everyone suddenly wants to save the planet , think of the children.

Except the children were already promoting climate change outside of schools when noone has asked them to.

None of this will help the issue. It's all for social media like most other things are these days. Her name can go viral online , her pictures can be shared 1000s of times and hashtag gretavstrump can be popular on twitter.

Doesn't do anything , as the recent general election proved. It's poorly thought out and all it does is put a young girl in the firing line for any negative publicity that frankly she didn't sign up for.

 

[Rob17896]

Still can’t see it happening. Can’t let all the tree hugging weirdos win this one.

It is our very own Mr Trump!

 

[verreauxi]

No I'm not implying the scientists have made that decision , publicity agents have. Ones probably paid to highlight the issue in the media so they pluck a 16 year old girl and make her the face of climate change.

Actually think about that for a minute . We have a face for climate change. It's ridiculous, send her round the world shouting about it , pick a fight with trump for attention and everyone suddenly wants to save the planet , think of the children.

Except the children were already promoting climate change outside of schools when noone has asked them to.

None of this will help the issue. It's all for social media like most other things are these days. Her name can go viral online , her pictures can be shared 1000s of times and hashtag gretavstrump can be popular on twitter.

Doesn't do anything , as the recent general election proved. It's poorly thought out and all it does is put a young girl in the firing line for any negative publicity that frankly she didn't sign up for.

I actually think Extinction Rebellion does a lot more for climate change awareness than she does (and I don't necessarily agree with all the tactics of ER...blocking up the tube--public transportation--when people have to get to work was just silly, but it did get a lot of publicity).

 

[Methuselah]

It's quite mild for the time of the year here in Berkshire.

 

[LostLegend]

 

[Kenshin]

I actually think Extinction Rebellion does a lot more for climate change awareness than she does (and I don't necessarily agree with all the tactics of ER...blocking up the tube--public transportation--when people have to get to work was just silly, but it did get a lot of publicity).

I think they are a load of self aware door knob for heads.

But at the same time I respect them going out there and doing something for what they believe in to raise awareness. Yes for the likes of us what they are doing are an inconvenience and we can share that view on them. But to be fair they are doing something about it, collectively. Rather than one girl hung out to dry.

 

[Barry Rathbone]

No I'm not implying the scientists have made that decision , publicity agents have. Ones probably paid to highlight the issue in the media so they pluck a 16 year old girl and make her the face of climate change.

Actually think about that for a minute . We have a face for climate change. It's ridiculous, send her round the world shouting about it , pick a fight with trump for attention and everyone suddenly wants to save the planet , think of the children.

Except the children were already promoting climate change outside of schools when noone has asked them to.

None of this will help the issue. It's all for social media like most other things are these days. Her name can go viral online , her pictures can be shared 1000s of times and hashtag gretavstrump can be popular on twitter.

Doesn't do anything , as the recent general election proved. It's poorly thought out and all it does is put a young girl in the firing line for any negative publicity that frankly she didn't sign up for.

Social media isn't the real world the actuality of real world thinking is despite decades of media propaganda endorsed by politicians people intuitively know that the climate always changes. Bastardising the term "climate change" to mean "man made climate change" just doesn't wash it looks suspiciously like covering all bases which of course it is hence the majority of people are not taken in.

The solution for climate doom fundamentalists is to demonstrate their case with robust observational data but as I have shown on this and countless other forums no such evidence exists. The entire belief system is built on foundations of sand, aka, climate models but no matter how many examples there are of failed models and their associated claims believers will believe. It is the very essence of faith .... along with their fury at being exposed of course, lol

 

[tommye]

@mods


Can you please move this to the Current Affairs forum with all the other mundane boring stuff?


Thanks xx

 

[WA Toffee]

Your opening gambit was to excuse climate science for not being an exact science ergo guesswork MUST figure this is irrefutable logic.

You have no case

If it is not exact, it must be a guess. That is your irrefutable logic? lollollol
As I said previously, strawman argument.

 

[McBain]

Social media isn't the real world the actuality of real world thinking is despite decades of media propaganda endorsed by politicians people intuitively know that the climate always changes. Bastardising the term "climate change" to mean "man made climate change" just doesn't wash it looks suspiciously like covering all bases which of course it is hence the majority of people are not taken in.

The solution for climate doom fundamentalists is to demonstrate their case with robust observational data but as I have shown on this and countless other forums no such evidence exists. The entire belief system is built on foundations of sand, aka, climate models but no matter how many examples there are of failed models and their associated claims believers will believe. It is the very essence of faith .... along with their fury at being exposed of course, lol

Thoughts on the Callendar effect, and the work of Guy Stewart Callendar?