Current Affairs Climate Change Demonstrations.....

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Del-boy said:
I see Prince Harry has piped up telling us we need to do more about climate change. That’s nice from a guy who spends his life flying around the world to exotic locations.
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He is planting trees in Africa and visiting the site where his mother was helping to remove landmines.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
I was watching the Jeremy Vine show this morning and there was yet another piece about how eating meat is having a devastating effect on climate change. This latest one suggested that if you eat steak or red meat twice a week, that has the same effect on climate change as 1500 air miles.

Now I'm not disputing these figures although I do wonder sometimes who actually works these things out. I'm not even questioning the need to affect change to save the planet. I may not be fanatical enough to go on one of these marches, but I am a keen supporter of the likes of renewable energy, the need for new technology to reduce CO2 emissions, reducing plastics, recycling, saving and replenishing the worlds forests and probably, most importantly, controlling the worlds population.

No, my objection to all these headline making reports is WHY do they single out meat eaters for criticism. For instance, there are approximately 10 million cattle in the UK. Only 20% of them are reared for meat. The rest are dairy cattle. Presumably they all burp and fart the same regardless, so surely dairy products are having 4 times the effect on climate change than red meat production. And what about leather goods like shoes, bags, furniture and motor upholstery. Nobody is saying we need to stop production of any of those products What about sheep and pigs?. There are approximately 3 times more sheep than cattle in the UK and the majority of these are reared for their wool. Sheep fart don't they? Should we be banning wool too?

And where do we draw the line?. Horses, dogs, cats.?

Without in any way wanting to dismiss climate change and the need to address this, I just feel that reports such as this are more about bashing meat eaters than anything else.
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This deserves it's own thread
 
peteblue said:
Does anyone know what they want, apart from the day off school or work of course......
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peteblue said:
I wonder how many manufacturing jobs are lost as a result.......
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peteblue said:
Why is it that you only see these demonstrations in places like London and other large cities. I’m not aware of any demonstrations in our Market Towns or villages. Do our countryside kids just not care about this. Why are there no demonstrations in London against all those with chic wood burning fires......
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peteblue said:
But just like similar people at various festivals chanting about the climate, environment etc etc, before leaving the countryside looking like a toilet, what will they actually do to either clean up the environment or direct their protests at actual things that may affect the climate.......
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You literally sound like a fat daily mail reader.

Trying so hard to take issue with a load of kids and adults making themselves heard in effort to get those in charge to try and stop destroying the planet.
Just as if you cannot get your fat head around it but instead, you join all the other fat old men and try your damnedest to find any fault (mess at a festival) (manufacturing jobs lol) to ridicule them. I know you actually totally get it but for some bizarre reason don't want to.

Weird., very weird.
 
peteblue said:
How have they changed over the last 2000 years, how have they changed over the last 2 million years. We have the smallest of snapshots and are panicking......
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Just be honest and come out and say it.

You disagree with 98% of climatologists, and don’t believe in the climate science consensus.

Then list your academic credentials as to how you’ve arrived at this marginal, unsubstantiated opinion.
 
Amw79 said:
Just be honest and come out and say it.

You disagree with 98% of climatologists, and don’t believe in the climate science consensus.

Then list your academic credentials as to how you’ve arrived at this marginal, unsubstantiated opinion.
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Peteblue:

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..but with a fat head
 
I remember a few years back whilst serving in the Marine Corps we were doing exercises at Pendleton. We were doing a close quarter combat exercise when we started smelling smoke. At first we thought one of the tanks in the distance doing their own maneuvers started a fire with a rogue shell into the Bush.

Turned out there was a large bush fire over us on the backside of the hill we were below. It was really dry that day. It was one of the major fires that year.

It spread quickly so much so we had to head towards the railway tracks and the freeway to get picked up. When it was put out our humvee was destroyed as was our truck.

Since then there have been so many fires that just erupt becuase of the sheer heat. Sure some of them are blown tires and cigarettes but that's were people miss the point I'd it weren't so dry they would not ignite anything.

The climate is defintely changing. Even some branches of the military recognize it and are changing training practices.

For example picking up shell casings and only firing in certain areas. More regular maintenance on vehicles too.

Sure just today there was a fire in North County San Diego in the brush. Its humid and wet out. The temps are lower and it's raining and still the brush is so starved that a fire started.

Well done to this girl and any other children taking part and shame on anyone disparaging them and mocking them.

We did mess up. For many decades we didn't care about our waste, how much smog was created by our cars, how bad the energy sources were for our health and the ozone.

Even as a military man it.never occured to me the waste we left behind either at home training or when we come back from service and the items left behind by all of us.

I have two kids about to start middle school the least we can do is be open to change and the needs of our kids and learn from our mistakes and make the world a better place so they have futures. We will never stop wars and countries fighting but we can at least look at a more energy efficient less wasteful future.
 
James1878 said:
I remember a few years back whilst serving in the Marine Corps we were doing exercises at Pendleton. We were doing a close quarter combat exercise when we started smelling smoke. At first we thought one of the tanks in the distance doing their own maneuvers started a fire with a rogue shell into the Bush.

Turned out there was a large bush fire over us on the backside of the hill we were below. It was really dry that day. It was one of the major fires that year.

It spread quickly so much so we had to head towards the railway tracks and the freeway to get picked up. When it was put out our humvee was destroyed as was our truck.

Since then there have been so many fires that just erupt becuase of the sheer heat. Sure some of them are blown tires and cigarettes but that's were people miss the point I'd it weren't so dry they would not ignite anything.

The climate is defintely changing. Even some branches of the military recognize it and are changing training practices.

For example picking up shell casings and only firing in certain areas. More regular maintenance on vehicles too.

Sure just today there was a fire in North County San Diego in the brush. Its humid and wet out. The temps are lower and it's raining and still the brush is so starved that a fire started.

Well done to this girl and any other children taking part and shame on anyone disparaging them and mocking them.

We did mess up. For many decades we didn't care about our waste, how much smog was created by our cars, how bad the energy sources were for our health and the ozone.

Even as a military man it.never occured to me the waste we left behind either at home training or when we come back from service and the items left behind by all of us.

I have two kids about to start middle school the least we can do is be open to change and the needs of our kids and learn from our mistakes and make the world a better place so they have futures. We will never stop wars and countries fighting but we can at least look at a more energy efficient less wasteful future.
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Great post!

Mind if I ask how Everton found you?
 
Armaghtoffee said:
Great post!

Mind if I ask how Everton found you?
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Cousins and friends in the UK and Ireland. I went to see some games with them in the 90's and was hooked. Big Dunc was my favorite player as first game I saw was him scoring against Fulham. I served in Europe with the Marines later on and watched as much as I could on TV. It helped we have had a few yanks on the team.
 
James1878 said:
Cousins and friends in the UK and Ireland. I went to see some games with them in the 90's and was hooked. Big Dunc was my favorite player as first game I saw was him scoring against Fulham. I served in Europe with the Marines later on and watched as much as I could on TV. It helped we have had a few yanks on the team.
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Welcome to the forum mate!
 
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