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So you say. I could post I'm just back from two months at Guantanamo Bay and the prisoners held there for decades without trial with a side order of torture are living the life of Riley. Now why would the western media want to discredit the Arab League visit 🤔
You could and I would totally be in my right to not believe you.

But if you want to accuse me of being a liar just say it?

Of course the western media would want to discredit the visit. Im not suprised at all by that.

Why do you not believe me out of interest? I have no reason to spend my sunday lying on here about my visit to China. I saw this thread, and shared my experience and thats all
 
You could and I would totally be in my right to not believe you.

But if you want to accuse me of being a liar just say it?

Of course the western media would want to discredit the visit. Im not suprised at all by that.

Why do you not believe me out of interest? I have no reason to spend my sunday lying on here about my visit to China. I saw this thread, and shared my experience and thats all
Mate there is an agenda. In fact, they want to discredit almost everything and I guess you know the reason. It’s either in your camp or you are the enemy blah blah blah.
 
Ok Bbc haha. Speak it all.

Like I say, go and watch Jason’s videos. He mentioned quite a lot about Bxx.
Theres countless other articles similar to this and youtubers also discrediting him. Are you more likely to believe a youtuber? Should I share the link?
I agree BBC will have an agenda but it doesnt change the reality of alot of the content of that article.
Im not watching those videos sorry, as i said I dont need a youtuber to tell me that I didnt see what I saw? How can you not understand this?
 
Mate there is an agenda. In fact, they want to discredit almost everything and I guess you know the reason. It’s either in your camp or you are the enemy blah blah blah.
Yeah obviously there is an agenda? I didnt say there wasnt...
I dont trust the western media or the chinese media. I trust my eyes though
 
You could and I would totally be in my right to not believe you.

But if you want to accuse me of being a liar just say it?

Of course the western media would want to discredit the visit. Im not suprised at all by that.

Why do you not believe me out of interest? I have no reason to spend my sunday lying on here about my visit to China. I saw this thread, and shared my experience and thats all
That's like asking why some forum members continually post war porn on the Ukraine thread. How does anyone know another's motivation for posting on social media?
 
That's like asking why some forum members continually post war porn on the Ukraine thread. How does anyone know another's motivation for posting on social media?
We dont know, I guess we just have to trust one another and figure it for ourselves.
 
It's dead weird the relationship between the UK and China y'know. It's not all antipathy, but it does always seem not too far away. Recently the MRC partnered up with the equivalent Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology (MoST) to launch a scheme focused on antimicrobial resistance and pandemic preparedness. Had to be a collaboration between UK and Chinese researchers. MRC would fund the UK arm and MoST the Chinese researchers.

It's a fairly common model where applications are submitted to both funders in collaboartive international research. Whilst I wasn't directly involved in any bids, I gather from folk I know on the UK side of one bid it all got a bit weird to the point they dropped the bid at the 11th hour. Subsequently learned they weren't alone, so others got dropped.

Apparently the Chinese submission process wanted names, addresses, passport number, DOB and all sorts of other sensitive data about the UK researchers.

MRC also apparently had no idea MoST would be asking for all sorts of stuff that is out of bounds in the UK. And certainly doesn't happen when running a similar scheme with, say, Japan or Canada or EU countries.

Shame really, good science potentially scuppered by suspicion and mistrust (on both sides). Can't imagine it'll make future collaborations between countries any easier because MRC got a lot of flak and naturally now have to address the issue.
 
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Well that’s how Jason responded.


Interesting piece of video,some would say totally stage managed,but the lack of graffiti and rubbish on the streets would make me happy enough with a one party state,plus access to three pairs of boxer shorts for less than a fiver. The one party state thing is quite interesting when you compare Blair's New Labour to the Tories.
 
Maybe a little out of date these days but Ma Jian's Red Dust is the best thing I've read about China. @hktoffee could do worse than picking up a copy of Beijing Coma also.
 
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Interesting piece of video,some would say totally stage managed,but the lack of graffiti and rubbish on the streets would make me happy enough with a one party state,plus access to three pairs of boxer shorts for less than a fiver. The one party state thing is quite interesting when you compare Blair's New Labour to the Tories.
I don’t see rats in GZ at all. I think young people can do graffiti, at the places/old factories where the gov allow them to do the art stuff.
 
Interesting piece of video,some would say totally stage managed,but the lack of graffiti and rubbish on the streets would make me happy enough with a one party state,plus access to three pairs of boxer shorts for less than a fiver. The one party state thing is quite interesting when you compare Blair's New Labour to the Tories.
Yeh, sure it would. Who needs freedom.
 
Interesting piece of video,some would say totally stage managed,but the lack of graffiti and rubbish on the streets would make me happy enough with a one party state,plus access to three pairs of boxer shorts for less than a fiver. The one party state thing is quite interesting when you compare Blair's New Labour to the Tories.

Yes mate absolutely no difference between Major's tories and the first Blair government. Zero.
 
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