Then go to kipper then where your misery belongs, it's not welcome.
Ah, shut up. Go to an England forum or something will you?
It's plain and simple we wont get 4th. If you can't see that your deluded. We aren't good enough - simple as.
The reasons I don't think we'll get 4th are;
1. We haven't got good enough backup to the first team if any get long term injuries. Plain and simple.
2. Other teams around us have strengthened their squads, notably City, Spurs and Sunderland. I think Sunderland will do quite well this year. This combined with the fact we've weakened our squad doesn't give me a lot of confidence.
3. Arsenal might have not strengthened, but I guarantee Eduardo and Arshavin will have a bigger impact this season - more than Adebayor ever ever did - and we aren't catching Chelsea, United or Liverpool.
4. I can see us doing OK in the Europa League, can't see us winning it. This means we've got a helluva load'a games to be played. Again, our squad simply isn't big/good enough.
5. We haven't got enough quality in our team. You look at the top 4. United have got quality through and through, Liverpool have got possibly the best partnership in the world in Gerrard and Torres (Azzbot you bad Kopite - I'm not arsed) Chelsea have got Lampard, Drogba and Anelka, who are all quality, I think Malouda will shine this year also. Arsenal have Arshavin and Eduardo, who are awesome as well. We haven't got someone else other than Mikel - who isn't on par with any of the above mentioned (imo). Don't get me wrong, we've got Pienaar and Yak as well, who are awesome, even Saha, but they aren't
quality as in your Rooney's, Torres', Gerrard's etc.
That's my opinion why we wont get 4th like.