And yet she wants to , whilst still endorsing the state she lived in and does so away in a refugee camp . To me It’s far from an easy conversation , I was taught empathy and compassion but I find it difficult to have to much in this situation. Of course she can turn her life around and that’ll be fantastic but I’m not convinced she should do so without repercussion . However saying that , what even should that be I don’t know .
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And yet she wants to , whilst still endorsing the state she lived in and does so away in a refugee camp . To me It’s far from an easy conversation , I was taught empathy and compassion but I find it difficult to have to much in this situation. Of course she can turn her life around and that’ll be fantastic but I’m not convinced she should do so without repercussion . However saying that , what even should that be I don’t know .
roydo
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Not sure even the most useless potential "sleeper" in the entire world would give The Times an interview from a refugee camp.
Probably Better off using one of the other 400 or 500 that have returned and havent given an extensive newspaper interview.
roydo
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lol
NilSatisOptimum
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Being groomed as a child is very much being looked over with this young person and then developing a form of Stockholm syndrome, along with horrific experiences she very likely witnessed, Post traumatic stress disorder. Let alone a mother to be in a refugee camp!
All what she has said in the interview could all be the effects of poor mental health of the above.
If she is open to rehabilitation and remorse can't see much issue in letting her back into the UK. She will have to accept whatever justice comes her way. And then she must accept close monitoring by security services and child services for some time to come if indeed she deemed sufficiently rehabilitated.
All what she has said in the interview could all be the effects of poor mental health of the above.
If she is open to rehabilitation and remorse can't see much issue in letting her back into the UK. She will have to accept whatever justice comes her way. And then she must accept close monitoring by security services and child services for some time to come if indeed she deemed sufficiently rehabilitated.
NilSatisOptimum
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Why?
We don't know what she has or hasn't done until due process is done, just lots of emotional keyboarding. All we know is she was enticed to go their as a child and she is still very young, she is pregnant and that she is a British citizen. Im not suggesting she shouldn't be held to account for any crimes. But becoming normalised to seeing severed heads in bins is not a crime and actually just reinforces her status as a victim in a very nasty regime in my opinion.
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If she said she had made a mistake leaving and that what she saw over there was horrible, I would be inclined to let her back in.
With her attitude it's going to be a hard life for her and her child to integrate with the unradicalised population and I expect her to eventually reach out back to the people that 'understand' her. So in my opinion one day (maybe 20 years down the line) her and her child are only a pitch fork away from a terrorist attack on a leafy suburb somewhere.
With her attitude it's going to be a hard life for her and her child to integrate with the unradicalised population and I expect her to eventually reach out back to the people that 'understand' her. So in my opinion one day (maybe 20 years down the line) her and her child are only a pitch fork away from a terrorist attack on a leafy suburb somewhere.
She was 15 and somehow inculcated into joining ISIS is Syria. How do you suppose that happened without some kind of grooming?
TraffordBlue
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Things we know
- Left the country to go to a war torn nation where barbaric attrocities are being committed
- Voluntarily married a man who would go on to comitt brutal and barbaric murders
- About to to have a 3rd kid at the age of 19, after 2 have already died due to terrible living conditions that she voluntarily put the 2 kids in to
- Has no regrets about supporting a group that hates outsiders and continues to comitt barbaric murders.
Barnfred 55
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My understanding, and I may be completely wrong on this which is why I asked the question of you in the first place, is that they were "groomed", if that is the correct terminology, via internet propaganda coming out of Islamic State. They would have had to purposefully sought out this material, and then reach out to the perpetrators of these videos to enter into the dialogue by which they organised their elopement to ISIS, behind the backs of their friends and families.
The point is, as I understand it, that they largely instigated their own grooming, rather than the other way around. This is a million miles away from the grooming that went on with the young girls from Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford and numerous other places around the country.
Treason - the act was ended in 1998....... Tony Blair government - she will be in a long line of British Isis traitors who will try to return to the UK - this is just the beginning of the fact we can't rip their passports up.......it's also an international problem too!
TraffordBlue
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She clearly doesn't.
Went over there knowing the consequences and is now attempting to have the 3rd one after being unable to prevent her first 2 from dying.
She seems an extremely selfish individual to me, to say the least.
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