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We are better than them . But she CHOSE to go and live under a barbaric medieval regime mate .
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Personally I’ve probably got more , she was a baby machine . I’m not trying to downplay what she’s done the regime would have functioned without the likes of her but she’s absolutely not a fighter . That letts bloke is , he’s killing and chopping heads off , right in the middle of that . They’re both part of a barbaric regime but he’s actually getting his hands dirty .
Absolutely so we should be the same ? People are advocating we lower ourselves to their level , that’s never the answer and I’m not having it ever is personally we operate by rule of law .
Ihaters
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Only where there has been no choice for me.
You read about the child armies in the past being forced into atrocities, attack one of your family or they all die etc... That's a victim and a member.
Being talked around to joining Isis by someone on the internet, that is a bit different, that takes a bit of 'wanting to do this already', then after going there and witnessing the scum at work and not caring about what they are doing, subsequently condoning the leadership for leading them to failure, is very different. That's not a victim. That's a psychopath, a traitor and an enemy of the country..
No matter how much pressure your under, you can always say no, you can always not fly over to another country and be with a member of a terrorist organisation your country is at war with, in fact it's easy, look... I just did it!
We need to go by the law, but much like these few story books that causes absolute morons to commit atrocities on other human beings, it seems our law is open to interpretation. Personally I would use it to keep known terrorists out of the country rather than use it as a reason to bring them back in.
Diogenes the Cynic
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In our culture she is a child however in other countries and cultures she would be legally viewed as having capacity to consent.
It's why age of consent is a strange issue. Someone's capacity doesn't change when they cross a border however people should be aware of the laws and culture of a place they are visiting.
I agree to you,me and hopefully everyone else on here 12yrs old in Nigeria seems monsterous. Maybe there should be a global movement to look at consent across the board but how complicated would that be and there would never be agreement anyway.
The other thing is that if she was groomed and sexualised whilst in the UK then that should obviously be subject to our laws. Otherwise predators would just groom children and take them to a place with a low age of consent without fear of reprisal.
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The thing is she may not of killed people . But she has preached hate and actually gone through with going there . I’m 36 and couldn’t think of anything worse than being in a pub when it kicks off . She lived in a wa
R zone of her own back. She has not been remotely bothered seeing severed heads. We don’t know for a fact if she’s got her hands dirty or not .
We don’t but given their attitude towards women we cab hazard a guess we can also be pretty sure that letts is a fighter . If you’re looking at them both and you want to differentiate you can , I’m not saying she shouldn’t be punished or even vilified
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I know you aren’t mate . I’m just clearly a lot less tolerable to these people (terrorists before makes out this is a racist post) . The only people i have sympathy for are the victims. Shamina for me is far from that
Im not sure you have got less tolerance if I’m honest , it might not be IS but I’ve lost mates to the likes of AQ in Afghan and Iraq . I’d happily see her punished and I feel zero sympathy for her . I don’t think I’ve articulated any . I think it’s very possible even likely she was groomed but that doesn’t excuse her .
My only points are I want the situation dealt with by legal means because it’s her today it could be somebody I do have sympathy for in 5 years . Stated cases in this country have a huge impact and if the government can start to do what they want I worry where it ends . As regards Begum and letts they both supported a barbaric regime and without the likes of her it simply couldn’t have functioned but I can see the difference between those allowing it to function and those actively involved in the barbarism itself . She wasn’t shocked by seeing a head in a bin and that’s horrific to read but it was the likes of jihadi jack that was sawing that head off.
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Fair enough mate
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She wanted to live under their rule so let's make an exception and punish her under their stone age rules too. She'll be made up.
You can’t make exceptions in law mate that’s the points of laws . Make one for her , then you make one for somebody else who we deffo know did something , then somebody else then it becomes the norm . There is a point to that first they came for poem
Diogenes the Cynic
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Could be simpler than that. Without consul in Syria there would be no government assistance in getting back to the UK. And she has admitted joining a terrorist organisation.
Therefore any family member, friend or news organisation that gives her financial assistance could be charged with funding terrorism, just like Jack Lett's parents.
I'd be surprised if this had a quick conclusion, i expect it to be tied up in the courts for months until the government take her back as quietly as possible.
Diogenes the Cynic
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She was above the age of consent in Syria.
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